Scorched Sides Advice
Scorched Sides Advice
Hello all,
What, I at first, thought was just a little surface scorching on some blackwood sides after bending in my machine has turned out to be virtually all the way through, The scorching is only at the waist area of both sides. I have made a decent bit of progress on this build and don't want to abandon the work so far for what seems ultimately to be an aesthetic problem.
So now I am contemplating any cosmetic means I can use to hide or blend it. Has anyone been in this territory before and found a viable fix? I am thinking of simply staining the sides black, but if someone has some experience in this area I would appreciate their input.
Many thanks
Brian
What, I at first, thought was just a little surface scorching on some blackwood sides after bending in my machine has turned out to be virtually all the way through, The scorching is only at the waist area of both sides. I have made a decent bit of progress on this build and don't want to abandon the work so far for what seems ultimately to be an aesthetic problem.
So now I am contemplating any cosmetic means I can use to hide or blend it. Has anyone been in this territory before and found a viable fix? I am thinking of simply staining the sides black, but if someone has some experience in this area I would appreciate their input.
Many thanks
Brian
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Take a break, then take deep breath and get some new sides and start again.
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
If you still have plenty of structure, you could try your hand at a 'burst. You'll need to figure out if you want the extra finishing work, though!
Some pics of one here.
Some pics of one here.
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
what was your bending procedure?
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Well, it was a long time to getting finished, but I decided to "dye" the sides black to hide the scorched area but still allow the grain and figure to show through. The end result didn't turn out too bad I thought.
I'll post some more in the gallery soon, but my photographic skills are severely lacking.
Brian
I'll post some more in the gallery soon, but my photographic skills are severely lacking.
Brian
Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Man that's something I would never have thought of....thinking outside the square. This has to be a serious contender for save of the year.
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Looks great!
It reminds me bit on those sandwich-like cookies with chocolate
It also reminds me on an occasion before my life as luthierie-addict when I commissioned some kind of guitarrilla to a Bolivian luthier and proposed a different wood for the sides than that of the back - because I liked how it would have looked. Unfortunately that luthier decidedly rejected the idea, saying that "things are not made that way" and that it would look bad. It was one of the first instances when I thought "oh well, I can make it like that if I find the time to make a guitar".
In any case I'm pretty sure that in a century or two this guitar will cause some serious head scratching amongst historians, which in the end will conclude that the sides were "baked" for acoustical reasons!
It reminds me bit on those sandwich-like cookies with chocolate

It also reminds me on an occasion before my life as luthierie-addict when I commissioned some kind of guitarrilla to a Bolivian luthier and proposed a different wood for the sides than that of the back - because I liked how it would have looked. Unfortunately that luthier decidedly rejected the idea, saying that "things are not made that way" and that it would look bad. It was one of the first instances when I thought "oh well, I can make it like that if I find the time to make a guitar".
In any case I'm pretty sure that in a century or two this guitar will cause some serious head scratching amongst historians, which in the end will conclude that the sides were "baked" for acoustical reasons!

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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Excellent save, Brian.
How did you do your "dying"?
How did you do your "dying"?
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Hi Trevor,
I used the wood dyes from u Beaut. Basically followed their recommendations. Used a mixture of the Black Green dye and the Red dye, it penetrated very well. They recommend wetting the surface a couple of times to raise the grain and sand smooth before applying the dye to minimise the amount of sanding at the end.
Brian
I used the wood dyes from u Beaut. Basically followed their recommendations. Used a mixture of the Black Green dye and the Red dye, it penetrated very well. They recommend wetting the surface a couple of times to raise the grain and sand smooth before applying the dye to minimise the amount of sanding at the end.
Brian
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Re: Scorched Sides Advice
Thanks for that, Brian. It certainly seems to have worked well. I've always fancied doing a black blackwood guitar!
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