All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
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All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
I've not put one in the gallery for a while, so seeing as this one is quite an interesting beasty, I thought I'd put it up.
The commission was for an all koa guitar, to live in DGDGBD tuning, strung 13-56, ultra low action, hyper loud, with sound port and wedge body. Also with rope binding, slot headstock and a few custom inlays.
The hyper loud, low action and koa top all seemed rather mutually exclusive, so this was going to force an alternative approach.
To get the top mass down I reckoned I'd have to go really thin, so I worked out the mass of a spruce top for the same guitar and took the koa down to that mass, noting its stiffness. It ended up somewhere under 2.00mm. Then to support the very wavy short grain figure in the top, I used a classical style (Smallman type) dense lattice in KBP and CF, sized for the steel string loading. That was the structural design for the top sorted.
I reckoned this was going to be a pretty lively sounding guitar, so opted for a non-live back to maximise loudness rather than a live back looking for more tonal colour.
The client had an idea for a rosette he liked and you can see how this turned out. The red is blood wood (Brosimum Rubescens) and the green is English lime that I dyed. The brown is natural EIR.
The fretboard inlays are original scrimshaw of sea life (running with the Hawaiian theme) engraved into fossilized walrus tusk set into the fretboard. The headstock inlay "Maluhia" means Peace/Serenity in Hawaiian.
The rest you can probably figure out from the pics.
I haven't got a sound sample for it, but there's no doubt it exceeded its new owner's expectations. Its new owner has an up-market Gibson J200 and a Takamine Anniversary dread in his stable. In terms of loudness, it easily had them both for breakfast. The tone was very appealing. It has a sort of blues crunch tone (slightly over-driven tubes) with lots of headroom and high harmonics that sustain into next week. I had no real idea what to expect tone-wise from an instrument like this, and was very pleasantly surprised. The K&Ks reproduced the acoustic sound very accurately.
Anyway, the customer was really happy, which is what counts at the end of the day. Pics below:
The commission was for an all koa guitar, to live in DGDGBD tuning, strung 13-56, ultra low action, hyper loud, with sound port and wedge body. Also with rope binding, slot headstock and a few custom inlays.
The hyper loud, low action and koa top all seemed rather mutually exclusive, so this was going to force an alternative approach.
To get the top mass down I reckoned I'd have to go really thin, so I worked out the mass of a spruce top for the same guitar and took the koa down to that mass, noting its stiffness. It ended up somewhere under 2.00mm. Then to support the very wavy short grain figure in the top, I used a classical style (Smallman type) dense lattice in KBP and CF, sized for the steel string loading. That was the structural design for the top sorted.
I reckoned this was going to be a pretty lively sounding guitar, so opted for a non-live back to maximise loudness rather than a live back looking for more tonal colour.
The client had an idea for a rosette he liked and you can see how this turned out. The red is blood wood (Brosimum Rubescens) and the green is English lime that I dyed. The brown is natural EIR.
The fretboard inlays are original scrimshaw of sea life (running with the Hawaiian theme) engraved into fossilized walrus tusk set into the fretboard. The headstock inlay "Maluhia" means Peace/Serenity in Hawaiian.
The rest you can probably figure out from the pics.
I haven't got a sound sample for it, but there's no doubt it exceeded its new owner's expectations. Its new owner has an up-market Gibson J200 and a Takamine Anniversary dread in his stable. In terms of loudness, it easily had them both for breakfast. The tone was very appealing. It has a sort of blues crunch tone (slightly over-driven tubes) with lots of headroom and high harmonics that sustain into next week. I had no real idea what to expect tone-wise from an instrument like this, and was very pleasantly surprised. The K&Ks reproduced the acoustic sound very accurately.
Anyway, the customer was really happy, which is what counts at the end of the day. Pics below:
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Extraordinary! Stunningly beautiful! Thanks for posting the acoustic design details and especially of how you handled the koa top, very interesting.
If you don't mind me asking, can you go into how you did the rope binding? I've used small rope binding, (3mm x 2mm) which was a layup of stacked veneers but I've done nothing with segments as large as I see here.
If you don't mind me asking, can you go into how you did the rope binding? I've used small rope binding, (3mm x 2mm) which was a layup of stacked veneers but I've done nothing with segments as large as I see here.
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
I'm not usually a fan of rope binding but this one's an exception. It sits so well beside the Koa which isn't too bad a looker itself!
I particularly like the detail of the end graft and how you've handled it with regards to the wedge shape. Interesting approach inside the box also using a lattice
Interesting too that you have that tuning AND a super low action too, any neck relief or is it ramrod straight?
Nice job Trevor, one I'd be happy to have in my collection.




Interesting too that you have that tuning AND a super low action too, any neck relief or is it ramrod straight?
Nice job Trevor, one I'd be happy to have in my collection.
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Hi Trevor, very nice, very tasty and great warm colour with pleasing grain pattern throughout. I like this guitar a lot. Does the port do anything noticeable? I have ports in my latest "000" and find its a subtle difference.
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Hi Trevor, very nice, very tasty and great warm colour with pleasing grain pattern throughout. I like this guitar a lot. Does the port do anything noticeable? I have ports in my latest "000" and find its a subtle difference.
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Absolutely stunning Trevor, what a brilliant combination of craftsmanship and timber !
….. and, if the reflections of the bridge pins are anything to go by, not too shabby a finish on it either

….. and, if the reflections of the bridge pins are anything to go by, not too shabby a finish on it either



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Wow!! Nice one Trevor.
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Hi Trevor,
Fabulous! It looks magnificent!
If the top is anything like the curly blackwood top on the guitar Bob Connor made for me (and it ougth to be, Koa is closely related to blackwood), the top will sound even better after a few months of playing! Mine has lately started "loosening up" nicely - it's one year old now.
Thanks,
GregL.
Fabulous! It looks magnificent!
If the top is anything like the curly blackwood top on the guitar Bob Connor made for me (and it ougth to be, Koa is closely related to blackwood), the top will sound even better after a few months of playing! Mine has lately started "loosening up" nicely - it's one year old now.
Thanks,
GregL.
Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
That looks absolutely beautiful. Great work.



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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Good to read you managed to wedge it into "your equations".
And of course it looks great.
BTW, where do you get those rippled wood - decals from?

And of course it looks great.

BTW, where do you get those rippled wood - decals from?

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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
I've always wanted to do rope binding on an instrument and this guitar looks fabulous. I know a lot of people don't like this style of binding but I think it has it's place. I'd really like to see how you've made this binding at some stage?
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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Thanks for the kind comments, Gents.
The client took a trip to Hawaii and sourced the wood himself! Four consecutive slices from the same wedge, so it's book-matched front to back as well as side to side.
Craig Bumgarner wrote: ...can you go into how you did the rope binding?
I thought about making it, but not for long! I looked up Tony Francis in NZ and told him what I was up to and he supplied the really nice stuff shown here. (Thank you, Tony!) It comes with a veneer laminated to the inside and outside of the binding and you bend it and instal it with both veneers on. Then you scrape back the outside veneer to reveal the rope proper. The pic below should explain things a little better. I put in an extra white purfling line in the top and a b/w in the side which was glued onto the binding prior to bending it.Kim Strode wrote: I'd really like to see how you've made this binding at some stage?
Nick wrote:I'm not usually a fan of rope binding but this one's an exception.
I know what you mean! This one grew on me a lot as I built it. It's a very traditional Hawaiian look: koa and rope and they do sit well together.Kim Strode wrote:I know a lot of people don't like this style of binding but I think it has it's place.
Miniscule relief.Nick wrote:...any neck relief or is it ramrod straight?
I didn't get much chance to do "hard" testing, but the impression I got was that there was little difference out front but quite a useful increase in loudness for the player. The port is 28mm diameter and raised the main air resonance ~ 6 Hz.Taffy Evans wrote:Does the port do anything noticeable? I have ports in my latest "000" and find its a subtle difference.
charangohabsburg wrote:BTW, where do you get those rippled wood - decals from?

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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
It's all been said.............
so ummmmm ..... what they said!
nice one Trevor, nice soundport too, Now I don't feel so bad about the unplanned one I installed a few guitars back.
Cheers,

so ummmmm ..... what they said!









nice one Trevor, nice soundport too, Now I don't feel so bad about the unplanned one I installed a few guitars back.
Cheers,
Paul .
Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Fantastic work. A visual symphony.
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A truly Stunning instrument Trevor Well Done!....and....of course....WOW!
Cheers
John



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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
Nice work Trevor.
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kiwigeo wrote:"Instrument No 14200346"........how on earth did you find the time to write the books??

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Re: All Koa rope-bound slack key guitar
You could get a random number generator that you see in the spy films. But it's more machinery to keep track of. 

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You think I don't already have a random number generator?

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It appears that I have misunderestimated you, Mr Gore!


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