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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by J.F. Custom » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:28 am

Just another thought for those considering the Carbide blades for their machine...

The only issue with the carbide blades you may run in to is blade length/wheel diameter/blade option.

The carbide resaw blades have a high tension thick backing steel. It does not bend as readily as the Woodslicer for example - or any more standard blade for that matter.

Therefore the wider depth blades such as 1", may not want to bend around a tight 14" radius properly as they are too stiff and may want to break. The 3/8" depth on the other hand I would think would be ok. I'm not sure where the 'cut-off' points are for each blade width, but some even feel stiff bending to a 17" wheel diameter as on my machine.

If indeed the SUV has a 14" wheel diameter, you may find yourself limited to what carbide blade is going to work on your machine. Henry Bros should know for sure which is ok or not and the limitations thereof - you'll just need your specs before making the phone call.

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:15 am

I ordered the 1" Resaw king. It's what Laguna recommended for the saw. I also have a friend with the same saw and same blade who cuts veneers effortlessly, so I figure its a good combo.

I have read of people putting " lesser " blades on the Laguna and not having much success, so I just stuck with what I knew was tried and tested without having to buy half a dozen blades and work it out myself. I was looking for plug and play with instant success.

I will however have to make some higher 90 degree guides for resawing as the out of the box is just a couple inch fence.

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:29 pm

Jeremy, I called up Henry Bros today and ordered a 125 ", 1 " wide, Lennox Carbite Tipped 'woodmaster' Resaw Blade: $140 + GST + Postage

The technician on the phone saw no problem with the blade's ability to flex around the 14" fly wheels.

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:45 pm

Update:

Laguna Resaw King Blade arrived today. Didn't get much work done building guitars as I was bookmatching everything I could get my hands on!

Great saw. Great blade. Very happy.

A few snaps from today:

Brazilian Walnut:
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Spalted Sassafras:
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Zebrawood:
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Rimu:
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There was lots lots more, but you get the drift!

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by J.F. Custom » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:03 pm

Oooh - Don't you just love it when you get a new blade! :D 8)

Nice work Allan and some interesting pieces you have there. That Resaw King blade looks the goods. I had heard of them before, but never looked into the details. They seem well designed. Lennox do a similar blade with a 3/4 variable tooth pitch configuration, combined with a triple chip grind. Very smooth cutting blade. Unfortunately, I don't think Henry Bros carry this stock. I had to order this one in from US directly. Henry Bros seem to only do the stock standard TCT resaw they make. Still a great blade. Nevertheless, yours should see you through a hell of a lot of work.

And good one Stu - doubt you'll be disappointed in the long run and next to no price difference. Will probably get to you sooner as well. :wink:

It does make me want to go cut some wood up... Which I have absolutely no time for whatsoever!! :evil:

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:49 pm

Cheers Jeremy thanks for the advice! I haven't even fit the blade as I'm trying to get my head around a project which I'll have some pics up of soon.

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by curly » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:50 pm

In addition to Henry Bros we source bands from McDiven Saws in Altona , Vic . They have been consistently excellent across hundreds of bands we have ordered over time . Thanks heaps for the heads up on someone who will sharpen carbide bands Bob . We sharpen our own carbon and bi metal bands in house which is my preference but I haven't found an appropriate 7/8 pitch carbide band to match our sharpener . There's a heap of perfectly fixable bands we have tucked aside so that info will be a great help .
We've just bought a new machine in to compliment our Hitachi cb100 resaw and wood mizer mill , a truly beautiful old Barker with 950 diameter wheels , wish I had photos at hand to share .$1600 off ebay ! My preference on buying shop machines is still quality old cast though you really do have to know what you are looking at , plus side is that they are easy to work on , negative side is that you actually need to work on the machine at all !
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:17 pm

Nice cutting, do you have a link to the supplier of the blade

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:25 pm

simso wrote:Nice cutting, do you have a link to the supplier of the blade

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If you're talking about me and the Resaw King blade, I ordered it through a small, local family business. I try to support them as the smaller businesses struggle with all the massive Bunnings and Masters franchises in town.

Call Danny (owner) on 03 5331 5811 and mention that Allan whom bought the Laguna bandsaw gave you the number.

I'm sure he can work out a way to post you one.

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:44 pm

Awesome, thanks

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Well, after Allan's excellent results with the laguna and resaw king blade, we've done the plunge and placed an order as well, it appears only one distributor in Australia.

Currently resawing 300mm lengths into 3mm thickness is just down right hard work, would really like to remedy this

Does anyone know of a good supplier for nice blades for really easy freehand work on woods like maple up to an inch thick, we will modify our existing bandsaw for more freehand work

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:47 pm

simso wrote:Well, after Allan's excellent results with the laguna and resaw king blade, we've done the plunge and placed an order as well, it appears only one distributor in Australia.

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Did you get one from Danny or elsewhere?

I hope it doesn't let you down after my recommendation!

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:09 am

Does danny sell them, I only new about Greg's machinery in qld.

We've asked at the moment for firm prices from them
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:17 am

I bought my saw and blade from Danny. Greg's Machinery is the importer/wholesaler

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:18 pm

Bummer, still waiting for them to come into the country

Was hoping to be using it before chrissy

Im sure when it arrives all will be forgotten and forgiven

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:56 am

Finally arrived yesterday.

Now I have got to somehow get it out of the back of the work van and upstairs.
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:21 pm

Aahhh - you bought the whole damn saw, I thought it was just the Laguna blade you were ordering!

Yes, its a heavy saw. I'm glad I had a trolley on hand to move it around. I found that when installing the motor I used a couple blocks of wood and a trolley jack to keep it in position and then do up the bolts. Even the table itself has plenty of weight in it!

If you're moving it upstairs (glad its not me), I suggest ripping it out of the crate and taking up the motor and table etc separately?

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:02 pm

upstairs....ahhhhhhh. From memory the motor was wired in so you couldn't carry it up separately...

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:43 pm

Yes the motors wired in, did not understand why that was not mounted to start with

Very well built saw from what I assessed, compared to the current bandsaw I have, its a huge step forward.

This is going to be a dedicated ripping bandsaw, so we can start manufacturing small quantities of backs and sides from local aussie wood suppliers near us, for our in house acoustic guitar building courses.

But I need to get it up the staircase, which is 5 meters in length at an almost 45 degree angle.

At least its only a couple of hundred kilos. :lol:
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:48 pm

There will be a few guinesses after that effort...I read in the instructions you could winch it...hope that helps

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:17 pm

Cool, I have a steel frame welded at the top of our staircase for exactly this purpose.

I have dragged things up previously via block and tackle, just need to lay something down over the stairs to create a ramp rather than steps, last time we did it was a bit scary, I might set it up a bit better this time before winching it up.
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:31 pm

Ah sorry Steve I may have misread that:

"6.
It is recommended that the machine
be removed from the pallet by lifting it
with a hoist or forklift. Place a sling
through the bandsaw as shown below and
lift vertically. Remove the pallet and
lower to the floor. The machine can be
lifted by using a forklift truck, by sliding it onto the forks or by using a forklift
“SLING”, as shown with a lifting capability of 2,000 Kg (440lb)"

I guess I just assumed you could lift it with a sling if you have to use a fork sling to get the base off...

One Time I had to get a 240kg drum sander down my laneway (cobblestones) using a few metal rollers (an old basket ball ring stand). Egyptian style...Not fun at all. That horrible feeling when you think it is going to tip...

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by simso » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:47 pm

I can throw a sling around it.

We actually have a three wheel movers trolley, I normally strap the item to the trolley and strap the trolley to the block and tackle, and then hoist
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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by needsmorecowbel » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:53 pm

Cool, Best of Luck!

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Re: Bandsaw problems

Post by demonx » Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:00 am

simso wrote:I can throw a sling around it.

We actually have a three wheel movers trolley, I normally strap the item to the trolley and strap the trolley to the block and tackle, and then hoist
We have a motorised three wheeler at work - its a flip of a coin as to whether the person using it gets the items up the stairs or not - scary machine!

I reckon two people could probably get the thing up the stairs if you strapped it to the three wheeler. From memory its 180 kg, so disassembled as much as possible you should be right

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