Brushing epoxy
Brushing epoxy
Hey, I have usually used a old credit card to spread epoxy and then sand it back to wood. But I end up with some sinking of the finish into grain lines after about 6 months. So reading the Gore/Gilet book Trevor suggests brushing the epoxy and leveling it so I thought I'd give this a try. My first observation on this is that the brush sucks up as much epoxy as ends up on the guitar. But I got a very flat finish. And then there is the issue of cleaning the brush.
Anyone else brush epoxy, what sort of brush and how should it be cleaned. Metho?
Cheers
Dom
Anyone else brush epoxy, what sort of brush and how should it be cleaned. Metho?
Cheers
Dom
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Re: Brushing epoxy
I used acetone for cleaning brushes I used for laying CF Tow on falcate braces. In the end I gave up trying to rejuveate brushes after an epoxy session and I just chuck them away. Im about to do an epoxy pore fill on my current build and dont plan on re-using the brushDominic wrote:Hey, I have usually used a old credit card to spread epoxy and then sand it back to wood. But I end up with some sinking of the finish into grain lines after about 6 months. So reading the Gore/Gilet book Trevor suggests brushing the epoxy and leveling it so I thought I'd give this a try. My first observation on this is that the brush sucks up as much epoxy as ends up on the guitar. But I got a very flat finish. And then there is the issue of cleaning the brush.
Anyone else brush epoxy, what sort of brush and how should it be cleaned. Metho?
Cheers
Dom
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Re: Brushing epoxy
Provided you don't leave it too long, squeeze out the excess between sheets of paper (newsprint, anything) a quick rinse in acetone, wash in bar soap and water. Takes me about 2 minutes. Current brush has probably been rinsed and re-used ~50 times. The longer you leave it, the exponentially more time consuming and solvent intensive the washing is.
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Re: Brushing epoxy
Another tip:
Leave the epoxy to harden at least 24 hours and preferably 48 before hitting it with nitro. Hit it too early and you seem to get more sink-back. After 48 hours, I get none.
Leave the epoxy to harden at least 24 hours and preferably 48 before hitting it with nitro. Hit it too early and you seem to get more sink-back. After 48 hours, I get none.
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Trevor Gore, Luthier. Australian hand made acoustic guitars, classical guitars; custom guitar design and build; guitar design instruction.
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Re: Brushing epoxy
I don't use a brush, but I've seen Rick Turner comment that he uses disposable foam brushes. Especially on necks
Re: Brushing epoxy
I used a rubber tile grouting squeegee on my last. seemed to work better than the credit card.
Re: Brushing epoxy
During my kayak building days the word from the wise was to buy a bunch of cheap brushes and use them once. But cheap brushes shed bristles, mine did anyway. So foam was the go. But that was when we wanted to lay a fair bit of epoxy down to fill the weave of the fibre glass. Not sure I'd want to do that on a guitar where you're just going to sand most of it off again. The squeegee works better in as far as laying down just the right amount. At least for me. A few thin coats.
Re: Brushing epoxy
Dominic wrote:I end up with some sinking of the finish into grain lines after about 6 months. So reading the Gore/Gilet book Trevor suggests brushing the epoxy and leveling it so I thought I'd give this a try.
Dom, what type of epoxy are you using. And on what type of wood are you getting the sink back happening
Re: Brushing epoxy
Hey, I've used mostly Zpoxy but have tried west systems. I prefer Zpoxy. Sands easier than WS. My problem was when sanding back to wood and opening up small pores. I notice it most on the headstock where lots of prep and pore filling I still get a bit of sink back it I sand back to wood.
I tried a brush but had better results using a soft rubber spreader/squeegy. A light hand can leave a nice flat finish with care. A bit more practice and I'll be able to get a good even coverage with 2 coats.
Cheers
Dom
I tried a brush but had better results using a soft rubber spreader/squeegy. A light hand can leave a nice flat finish with care. A bit more practice and I'll be able to get a good even coverage with 2 coats.
Cheers
Dom
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Re: Brushing epoxy
I use acid swab brushes their cheap 25 cents a piece with metal handle , and thrown away after using epoxy.Costs more $ in acetone than its worth. Don/tknow if you can get them in OZ. woodworking suppliers here carry them .Think plumbers use them as well
Re: Brushing epoxy
A problem I find with alot of the cheaper brushes is the acetone actually melts the glue that holds the bristles in. I just use the brush once and then biff it...wasteful yes but acetone is cr*p stuff to deal with and after youve washed your brushes you've got a pot of acetone to get rid of.
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Re: Brushing epoxy
Keep the used actetone for the initial wash of the brush, then use a little bit of clean stuff to wash the brush. Keep a lip on the old stuff and I found the old glue or resin sinks. The clean acetone keeps your old stuff from getting too crappy.
I found a really nice squeegy that leaves a very flat finish so I won't use a brush, but I clean it as described above.
Dom
I found a really nice squeegy that leaves a very flat finish so I won't use a brush, but I clean it as described above.
Dom
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