Woodfast 14" bandsaw help

[matthew]

Anyone got a manual for an old green 14" woodfast?

I've got a set of the orange urethane tyres - on the bench thet are 13" diameter, the instructions say they're supposed to be undersized, and they're pretty stiff. Haven't warmed them up yet, but they are going to be a very tight fit.

it might be easier i think if i removed the wheels, but it's not just a simple lock nut or circlip scenario. I'll have to go inside. How do i get the buggers off? Is it straightforward?

Any help appreciated.

[liam_fnq]

Hi Matthew, I just put urethane tyres on a 14"er I restored a couple of weeks ago. The old rubber ones were perished and came off easily. there was no glue. The new ones I soaked in a bucket of hot water for ten minutes then took them to the shed. I clamped the tyre weld at the top off the wheel with a quick grip then another clamp as far round as I could get one. Then the elbow grease came out and I just had to wrestle it on with a couple of screwdrives. A bit like a bicycle tyre. Then take the clamps off. Then slide a screwdriver through b/w the tyre and the rim and spin the wheel a couple of times to even out the tension.

[matthew]

my tires were stuck on with 40 year old thick black goop.

luckily i have goop remover.

will let you know how i go with the elbowgrease.

i still think it'd be easier with the wheels off...

[kiwigeo]

Get in some practise first by changing a tyre on your bicycle....without tyre levers.

[matthew]

i'm an old hand at that. so it should be easy huh?

[kiwigeo]

i'm an old hand at that. so it should be easy huh?

You get good at it after a couple of sessions.....trouble is if you try and hold a beer straight afterwards you can have problems.

[kiwigeo]

This might help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgzWFtI015o

[liam_fnq]

Taking the wheels off would have to be more work than fitting the tyres. Just clamp at the top and work your way to the bottom so the wheel doesn't want to spin.

[Kim]

You don't use any glue with urethane tires so they're meant to be a very tight fit. I have replaced a few and have never taken off the wheels to do so. I just soak the new tires in HOT water for a while as suggested, clamp in place at the weld, and 'make' it fit. Using the round shaft of a couple of screwdriver as tire levers can help but they do need a good bit of stretching to get them on.

Once on be sure to roll a screwdriver shaft around between the wheel and tire a few times to spread out tension so the tire will sit evenly on the wheel and give the blade a smooth run.

Cheers

Kim

[matthew]

I have never had to change a bicycle tyre this much undersize :/



Can this be right?

i reckon they've given me the wrong ones.

[auscab]

Ive never done one of these but it looks to me like you need better presure to hold the tyre down in one spot , and a good way of stopping the wheel turning while you pull.

Is it possible to put a G clamp with shaped protective blocks clamped to the wheel under the rim? so the back of the G clamp is now parallel with the wheel /tyre surface
Then you could drive a timber wedge between the two
and it also gives a point to tie a rope to, that the end of is tied to the bottom of the band saw.
set this up so the clamp is at 9 oclock ,
and pull

[matthew]

OK I've managed it.

The secret is BOILING water, big pre-stretches between foot and a large screwdriver, then rapid installation on the wheel while still very hot. Hot water from the tap just ain't enough.

[kiwigeo]

Reminds me of my time living in northern Japan. The wife thought she'd save a few bucks by buying 7 dozen frangers from one of the little old ladies that does door to door franger sales in that country. Of course the wife assumed that her beloved was the same size as the native population........I ended up with much the same problem as Matthew was having with his bandie tyre

[matthew]

Reminds me of my time living in northern Japan. The wife thought she'd save a few bucks by buying 7 dozen frangers from one of the little old ladies that does door to door franger sales in that country. Of course the wife assumed that her beloved was the same size as the native population........I ended up with much the same problem as Matthew was having with his bandie tyre

i bet boiling water would have fixed it

[liam_fnq]

I have never had to change a bicycle tyre this much undersize :/



Can this be right?

i reckon they've given me the wrong ones.

That's exactly what mine looked like. Just hot water from the tap and some man-muscle required.

[liam_fnq]

Reminds me of my time living in northern Japan. The wife thought she'd save a few bucks by buying 7 dozen frangers from one of the little old ladies that does door to door franger sales in that country. Of course the wife assumed that her beloved was the same size as the native population........I ended up with much the same problem as Matthew was having with his bandie tyre

i bet boiling water would have fixed it

I bet some ice water would have fixed it

[needsmorecowbel]

How go the Double Basses, Matthew?

[kiwigeo]

How go the Double Basses, Matthew?

We're well overdue for an update from the Bassmeister

[matthew]

How go the Double Basses, Matthew?

The double basses are just fine. Just finished bringing three school basses back to life, am repairing a 1978 czech carved bass, setting up a '60s czech laminated with gut strings, rebuilding and refinishing a '70s student grade carved bass, still restoring the 1850's french bass and building my own large silky oak/qld maple/WRC bass.

The Woodfast, in the end, needed me to remove the wheels, realign them on their spindles, remove the top axle/adjuster assembly and pack it out another 8mm to give me extra tensioning room as the urethane belts were thinner than the old rubbers. Also had to remove the door and grind down the interior weld edges as they were touching the blade here and there. It now all runs very smoothly. A manual would have been handy though.

I bet some ice water would have fixed it

touché!

on second thoughts, no, eeeew.