Overhead router died, got desperate

[simso]

Its amazing what you will do when something stops working, my overhead router died today, I didnt want to have to pull the one from the underbench unit to then have to fit it back up and square it up etc. So improvisation..

Had to convert a acoustic guitar from a righty to a lefty, so little bit of an overkill.

That being said the cut was no where near as nice as that from a router, high speed not low speed when cutting and machining wood

Then I spent half an hour getting all the wood of the metal machine so it wouldnt rust on me or turn to sludge and block the coolant pipe

[charangohabsburg]

That looks quite impressive, don't tell anybody that it's an improvisation!

This is the new gardening trowel recommended for enthusiastic carrot harvesting hobby gardeners:

Picture: de.wikipedia.org

[simso]

It worked, but wasnt as neat as the router, its amazing in hindsight how much we take for granted out of these little routers.

I thought when I used the milling machine i would do aneater and better job, but in fact it was the opposite

And yes I like the carrot picker

[charangohabsburg]

I thought when I used the milling machine i would do a neater and better job, but in fact it was the opposite

Yes, I heard a rumour that the carrot picker also has some precision issues, sometimes it will grab the wrong carrot...

[Kim]

Toys!!!

I love toys. Big toys, small toys, slick, sharp and shiny toys, don't care what colour, oblivious to the noise, make'n little bits from bigger bits is one of life's joys that has been in my blood since I was a boy, give me toys, give me toys, give me toys!!!

Cheers

Kim

[Clancy]

Markus, there's one of those 'carrot pickers' in just about everyones backyard here in Oz.
The whole country is full of them.
Must be why carrots are so cheap!

[simso]

give me toys!!!

Then you might like this one

[Lillian]

I don't think I have ever been in a machine shop that clean. EVER.

[Nick]

I don't think I have ever been in a machine shop that clean. EVER.

It's not a real shop Lillian, the equipment hasn't even got any paint missing off it

[simso]

Yes, we clean up on fridays, tools away. Every tool has a specific spot also, maybe I suffer from a bit of OCD. Floors swept, instruments put back into storage containers / racks / and so forth. You can see the floor is stained by the collants and debris. Now that I think about it, maybe I should repaint the floor...No not OCD....not at all

I can live with a mess during the week, but friday its got to be clean.

Regarding the paint, yes I have touch up paint cans as well, so things get prettied up all the time. But I cannot do anything about the rust on the machine beds, that bugs me..

[Nick]

Regarding the paint, yes I have touch up paint cans as well, so things get prettied up all the time. But I cannot do anything about the rust on the machine beds, that bugs me..

When you clean up, wipe with a dry cloth & just a light spray of WD40 or CRC (or kerosine) on the beds or slides usually stops the rust from forming & drives off any leftover 'unseen' coolant. My job for 4 years as an apprentice was to clean & lubricate machinery every Friday afternoon, hated it because the 'tradesmen' would just leave the machine as a pigsty so I've always vowed (and continued it) to clean down as I go. I've found it also helps anybody coming onto the gear after you as they see a clean machine & know noboby is using it rather than chasing around finding out if anybody is in the middle of using it as you would naturally assume if it's buried under a pile of swarf ( ).

[simso]

I had to go and do some small jobs in the shop today, I found a bench a little bit messy

Ive used WD40 in the past but was never happy with the lack of protection, the slides always still seemed to rust. Ill give the CRC a go however, thanks..

[Kim]

I use a product called Silverglide on cast tables. It works well for me as it dry lubes to keep things moving slick without holding dust and also works well as a rust preventative. I allow it to dry completely before buffing off the excess, no point rubbing too hard though because you want to leave some product behind to protect the metal.

http://www.carbatec.com.au/silverglide-dry-slip_c19708

Tis Xie but s little goes a long way reckon my tin will see me out. Worth mentioning that it says on the tin that you can thin it (think they say petrol but naphtha would be my first choice) and then apply it with a spray bottle. Same deal though I imagine...leave it to dry at least over night.

Regardless of what product you use, Inox, WD40, CRC, Camilla Oil, Silberguilt, etc, etc, etc, where rust is the concern, simply placing a 'cotton' dust cover on the machine when your finished with it will go a long way to make the product work much more effectively. Old bed sheets are perfect as they are nice and thin and catch the moisture which gets dumped from the air as it cools each evening and prevents it from settling on the cast surface of your machine.

Yes moisture does settle on the sheet, but little of it will ever get to the machine below because as things warm up again the next day the air sucks the moisture back out of the cotton. Not sure how effective that process would be in the tropics, but its very effective here in Perth and seems a no brainer to try out as a first defence no matter where you are.

Cheers

Kim

[kiwigeo]

I'm another user of Silverglide and Im very happy with the product.....humidity in my garage hovers around 70 - 90% during the winter here in the Adelaide Hills but the machinery is rust free.

[auscab]

We use a tin , say 2 inches deep in which a strip of cut blanket 2.5 inches wide is rolled up and fitted in, it sticks out the top by .5 of an inch. this is a cabinet makers aid that goes way back ? I dont know how far.

Paraffin oil is poured on to the top and soaks down, this tin sits in the well at the back of the work bench and when planing timber,instead of using a candle ,you just reach across and give the sole of the plane a rub over it , it does not leave much oil on the plane and makes it glide pefectly, if I was jointing I woud give it a wipe with a dry rag before proceeding

When ever Im giving the cast tops to the machines a go over I flip this tin up and go over the lot . for moisture protection and slip.

[simso]

Thanks guys, will drop by carbatec on my rounds tomorrow and pick some silverglide up..

[Lillian]

You can see the floor is stained by the collants and debris.

You can? Not from here you can't.

I don't think I have ever been in a machine shop that clean. EVER.

I'm with you on that one Nick. My father owned a machine shop that employed 30 guys at its peak. I don't think it looked that good when they moved into the new building.

[DarwinStrings]

I reckon Inox works better than crc or wd40. Seems to have a heavier oil and form a better barrier. I have tried Silver Glide too and it only seems to be okay on blued steel after you soak the blued steel in oil first (typical gun preservative, blued, oiled then waxed), that is that the blued surface holds oil in and the wax in silver glide further protects it. On un-blued steel the Inox works much better than just silver glide but you have to clean it off before wood working so it is a time consumer.

Jim

Life is good when you are amongst the wood

[simso]

Thanks to all, I went and swung by carbatec on my travels, grabbed some inox and some silverglide, the silverglide was only avaiable in 1kg tubs, hopefully will get a chance tommorrow to try both products out.

Steve

[MBP]

Cooking oil and a bit of an old flannelette sheet are grate for wiping tool to stop rust.

The reason for cooking oil is its clear and wont stain like sump oil, it doesnt stink and isnt toxic or expensive. It doesnt harm or stain timber like wd40 inox etc etc

looks like a nice set up, what do yous make?

[simso]

We repair more than make. But anything musical we repair it

[MBP]

Have you ever tried making electric guitar bridges?


Do you use the lathes for musical instrument work?

[simso]

We use lathes to make mandrels, to turn up clarinet bodies that are broken, bassoon bodies and so forth.

We have arriving in about 3 weeks a 3d scanner and an 8 tool cnc router. Mmmm..