Post Recovery: Please help us if you can.

[Kim]

Gday,

No doubt you now know that the ANZLF has taken quite a hit. The fact that our forum was hacked combined by corrupt data on our backup disk has left us in a situation were it looks like we have sadly lost a lot of valuable input from our members and also the registration details of some people who had joint post recovery date.

Please, if you have copies of any tutorials or Gallery input you had posted in the past that is saved to your own PC, and that content is no longer present on the ANZLF, get it posted back where we can all enjoy it again. If you had joined us post recovery date then your account most probably no longer exists so you will need to sign up again. If this is the case please take the time to do so because we want everyone back and we want to put this in the past ASAP.

Cheers all and welcome back.

Kim

[Lillian]

Tossing this back on the top of the pile. Don't want it to get buried.

[Puff]

Is there any chance that Google has any archive of "cached" snapshots. Early on in the downtime the forum index at least could still be accessed there. Great work Bob - thanks.
Internet Archive

[Nick]

Allen & Jeremy, any chance of you reposting your ukes? (Ziricote/bearclaw & Blackwood Kasha respectively) The gallery is 'lacking' these two stunners & should be made covetable once again.

[charangohabsburg]

[...]
Please, if you have copies of any tutorials or Galley input you had posted in the past that is saved to your own PC, and that content is no longer present on the ANZLF, get it posted back where we can all enjoy it again. [...]

Unfortunately I don't have copies of anything on my computer and I don't even have posted anything in the pre-attack era...

But as "Puff" mentioned here and in another thread, uncle google saved some things in it's cache.

Yesterday night I started my first google cache expedition for anzlf contents. Just to give you an idea what can be done, these are the thread pages I saved locally on my harddisk:

2010 Ukulele Building Class-1.htm
2010 Ukulele Building Class-2.htm
Banksia Uke - Something Different.htm
bending ebony - its a snap-1.htm
bending ebony - its a snap-2.htm
bending ebony - its a snap-3.htm
Chequer Board Binding.htm
Dust extraction system.htm
J.F. Custom Kasha Style Tenor Uke.htm
Mixing.htm
Neck Woods.htm
New piece of cast iron.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-1.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-2.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-3.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-4.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-6.htm
What wood is this.htm
Would you line up for 40mins for KFC.htm

Of course, this is just the raw data which had to be copy-pasted message by message...

Unfortunately, pictures uploaded to the forum are missing, so if Bob and you moderators decide that this will be the way to go (recovering threads from google cache), collaboration of the "picture posting users" will be necessary (but at least they will know which pictures they had to search for on their computers). As I mentioned here (was slightly off-topic) this is a quite a bit painstaking but also rewarding task and I would not do it the first time...

Opinions on this "technique" ?

P.S.

Tossing this back on the top of the pile. Don't want it to get buried.

Right. Probably it should be "sticky". (Just one of my infamous, impertinent, unsolicited remarks )

[charangohabsburg]

This is what I saved from google cache today:

Bracing on a King Billy Top
Woolson Neck Jig
J.F. Custom Signature Model in Multi-scale-1
J.F. Custom Signature Model in Multi-scale-2
The "K-Sled" Kerfing Jig
Wood Shed Security
Bridge placement-1
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-1
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-2
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-3
Rattling Truss Rod Fix?
Weissenborn-copy project: Sassafras versus bunya soundboard
New John Gilbert Article
New Luthier Tips du Jour video - Double Tops
Metric-1
Importing Wood-1
Importing Wood-2
More Ukes
More Ukes (another thread)
Favourite tool/piece of equipment?-1
Favourite tool/piece of equipment?-2
splitting your braces, recycled wood
Acoustic guitar amps
monkeypod archtop
Simplified world map, with apologies to aussies.
A little neck work...
World cup fever

Just in case someone would start do do the same: have a look at this list before saving things a second time

[Bob Connor]

Nice work Markus

I went looking for some today but did not have as much luck as you.

Regards

[pau]

It's really depressing to pop in after a month and see how much damage was done by the hackers.

Regarding Google, if you do this search http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... =&gs_rfai=
i.e. type site:anzlf.com in the google box you get quite a long list. One would have to click on the cached version of each page and pick up whatever is available. It would be worthwhile to get as much as possible before Google trawls through the site and removes the now missing pages from its cache.

EDIT: I just tried and one can save the Google cached pages as an htm file (I was using Firefox). As noted above, no pictures are saved by Google. (Didn't mean to sound so pedantic. Blame my boss!)

EDIT2: Oh bugger. Google has complained after I clicked on about 100 cached pages and saved 45.

We're sorry...

... but it appears your computer is sending automated requests.

Paul

[Puff]

We get 32 pages but the forum only needs between what dates.( ie last good index and crash time) That would reduce the search somewhat.
Thirty two members taking a page each at a set time - so google was in that one order for all searchers -might get it done fairly quickly?
Another thought would be to bring up the google pages from one search and email ("Mail contents of this page") to members. Each google page saved as a draft. I think you can keep the one google search up whilst you do this but different apps may behave differently.

[Bob Connor]

The restore date was November 13 2009.

[charangohabsburg]

Nice work Markus
I went looking for some today but did not have as much luck as you.

Thanks for your words, Bob.
As pau said afterwards: type site:anzlf.com in the google search box and get what is still missing (clicking on "cache" ).

I always do a further search in another browsing tab: "Thread title" site:anzlf.com to get all the pages of a longer thread, and of course I will pick the most recently cached versions.

pau, please let us know which threads you saved, just to avoid that we are saving the same three threads fifty times or more...

@ Puff: I am not sure but I believe that search results do not always come in the same order (may depend on surfing behavoir of the user too?) But you are right, the more people are working on it the better we'll be off in the end. Which threads have you stored on your HDD so far?

[Puff]

@ Puff: I am not sure but I believe that search results do not always come in the same order (may depend on surfing behavoir of the user too?)
Markus that is why I suggested that one searcher, mailing pages from one constantly live trawl. could save a lot of unneeded leg work/ duplication.

[charangohabsburg]

@ Puff: I am not sure but I believe that search results do not always come in the same order (may depend on surfing behavoir of the user too?)

Markus that is why I suggested that one searcher, mailing pages from one constantly live trawl. could save a lot of unneeded leg work/ duplication.

Good suggestion, I'll wait for your pages then. Meanwhile I'll do another session of recovering threads...

[Puff]

With Safari the Google search stays live while you "mail this page" - just did one to myself.
Therefore one trawl of http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q ... =&gs_rfai= kept live with individual google pages
mailed to another receiver would get one score with non-duplicated song sheets. Have to go workwards now - back on in bout seven hours.

[Kim]

This is fantastic guys, thanks for the effort. Sergy just mailed me some pages to me as well but we do need some kind of compilation plan and I am not sure how this stuff will be re-hosted other than manual cut and paste...or am I missing something?? Off to work as well now

Thanks again for all your efforts, keep up the good work.

Seeya

Kim

[charangohabsburg]

So, there are some more threads (including nice stuff) salvaged from google cache to my HDD:

Bending Blackwood---black stain
I want to do what you do-1
I want to do what you do-2
A Concert Uke
Al's Special Les Paul Junior-1
Al's Special Les Paul Junior-2
Vacuum Pump Build-1
Vacuum Pump Build-2
Vacuum Pump Build-3
Woolson Neck Jig
Epoxies without VOCs
UCLA STUDY (very interesting and short)
A loss to the lutherie community
Work Bench and Gobar Deck
Stewmac rosette cutter mods
Good air compressor?
A new resin for lutherie?
Telecaster
Slotted headstock - no mystery, by Pete Howlett
nomex supplier?
New Devilbliss GTI and Stan S-2 guns (Setting advice needed)
Even back packing requires a certain level of intelligence
"Heaven Sent"
Smallman style adjustable neck construction
Shovel guitar!
Neck Design
Stickering Guitar Sets
Tiger Myrtle Tenor Uke with Lattice Bracing
The Responsive Guitar-1
The Responsive Guitar-2
small router/end mill bits-1
small router/end mill bits-2 (p.3 missing)

Until now I was "eating me through" from the first google entry up to approximately Nr. 230 (out of approximately 785) But this doesn't say much about the percentage of valid cache entries after Nov.13.2009.

@ Puff: Mixing up of the search results from one day to the next is nearly negligible, it's just a matter of an "intersection" of two google results pages which is quickly done if one knows which pages he already saved. Anyway, your saved pages of the google results list could help to split up the remaining work between several people - if needed.

[Puff]

Have the 33 pages for 831 results in page by page form for emailing -this is just the raw results that still have to be trawled and processed. All links work so would very much like to forward this folder to another safe haven or two please.

[Tim Mason]

Hi everyone

Good to see ANZLF is back up and running!

If it helps i did save a few things from members here,

1 Oz timbers Guide for Musical Instruments
2 Guitar Building Plans
3 Timber List Properties

If it helps let me know and i can email them to you. Thats a real shame about the hacking issues, but im sure things will be back to normal soon, the smilies are improved, thats one bunus

[Steve]

Nice work boys. I'll grab a copy of the search pages off you Puff - will PM my email address. In the meantime I'll start at page 33 & work my way backwards.
Bob - with the back-up failure, I don't suppose that there's any way of recovering even a list of topics so that we can keep track of what we have/have not?
Grüezi Markus. I spent a year working near Delémont in 1997 - not too far from you. You sure do live in a beautiful part of the world.

Steve

[Steve]

Okey-dokey, I've worked through pages 22-33. I've combined my list with Markus'. We're up to this:

10,000 hours.htm
A Binding question .htm
A Concert Uke
A little neck work...
A loss to the lutherie community
A new resin for lutherie?
Acoustic guitar amps
Ahh... bugger.htm
Al's Special Les Paul Junior-1
Al's Special Les Paul Junior-2
Bending Blackwood---black stain
Bracing on a King Billy Top
Bridge placement
Bridge placement-2.htm
Chequer Board Binding.htm
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-1
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-2
Christchurch quake; widespread luting-3
Cleaning wood.htm
Congrats Bob.htm
Cool online density calculator.htm
Dust extraction system.htm
Epoxies without VOCs
Even back packing requires a certain level of intelligence
Favourite tool/piece of equipment?-1
Favourite tool/piece of equipment?-2
Good air compressor?
heating blanket questions (& other questions about bendi.htm
Heaven Sent .htm
I want to do what you do-1
I want to do what you do-2
Importing Wood-1
Importing Wood-2
J.F. Custom Signature Model in Multi-scale-1
J.F. Custom Signature Model in Multi-scale-2.htm
Metric-1
Moensch Haile Plans or Take-offs .htm
monkeypod archtop
More Ukes
More Ukes (another thread)
My new fret slotting saw.htm
Neck Design
New Devilbliss GTI and Stan S-2 guns (Setting advice needed)
New John Gilbert Article
New Luthier Tips du Jour video - Double Tops
New piece of cast iron.htm
New Zealand schools going green.htm
Nitro Paint suppliers in Melbourne.htm
nomex supplier?
Oh, the irony....htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-4.htm
Old French Bass full Restoration-6.htm
Post-1926 Weissenborn copy project the firefly .htm
Rattling Truss Rod Fix?
Re-gluing Bridge.htm
Seven strings guitar..htm
Shovel guitar!
Simplified world map, with apologies to aussies.
Slotted headstock - no mystery, by Pete Howlett
small router/end mill bits-1
small router/end mill bits-2 (p.3 missing)
Smallman style adjustable neck construction
Snake in the Ar e .htm
splitting your braces, recycled wood
Stewmac rosette cutter mods
Stickering Guitar Sets
Such A Deal!.htm
Taking a Step Towards Buisness-2.htm
Telecaster
The "K-Sled" Kerfing Jig
The Responsive Guitar-1
The Responsive Guitar-2
Tiger Myrtle Tenor Uke with Lattice Bracing
UCLA STUDY (very interesting and short)
Vacuum Pump Build-1
Vacuum Pump Build-2
Vacuum Pump Build-3
Wanted Blueprints for Jazzmaster.htm
Weissenborn-copy project: Sassafras versus bunya soundboard
Wood import question.htm
Wood Shed Security
Woolson Neck Jig
Work Bench and Gobar Deck
World cup fever
Would you line up for 40mins for KFC .htm

[charangohabsburg]

Okey-dokey, I've worked through pages 22-33.

Great!
Yesterday I advanced from page 1-23 on my search results.

@ Puff: I'll PM you for receiving your search result pages and look through pages 1-21 if there is something new to me. This will be a breeze
This means that we are nearly done with the first step which was storing what google cache is willing to give us back.

I've combined my list with Markus'.

You have missed to include my first batch

P.S.

Grüezi Markus. I spent a year working near Delémont in 1997 - not too far from you. You sure do live in a beautiful part of the world.

Thank you for your kind words. Yes, compared to Australian or NZ distances, every place in Switzerland is pretty close to each other!
Indeed, Delémont is just about 50km air-line distance from where I live, but to us it seems far away because we have to drive 70km and it takes a little bit more than a full hour! Yes, everything is really close here!

[Kim]

I'm feeling very much a passenger in this you blokes, but I must say that I am a grateful passenger

Thank you.

Kim

[charangohabsburg]

Kim, you mentioned it earlier in this thread: we haven't yet begun with the big bulk of work:

[...] and I am not sure how this stuff will be re-hosted other than manual cut and paste...or am I missing something??

Yes, you're right!
...and additionally we'll have to hunt for the pictures and insert them too.

So don't be affraid, "passengers" will be given a chance to row the boat
The "google cache part" is just the step we had to hurry on with.

[pau]

These are the ones I managed to save working from the last cached page backwards, and probably duplicating what had been done before.

Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - 10,000 hours.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - A Binding question?.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Acoustic guitar amps.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Ahh... bugger.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Al's Special Les Paul Junior2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Bridge placement1.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Bridge placement2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Cairns Uke Festival Course 2010 Underway2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Chequer Board Binding.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Cleaning wood.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Congrats Bob.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Dawgone!!!!!.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Drying Timbers.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Dust extraction system.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Favourite tool_piece of equipment?1.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Favourite tool_piece of equipment?2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Favourite tool_piece of equipment?.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - "Heaven Sent".htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - J.F. Custom Signature Model in Multi-scale2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - J.F. Custom "Von Trott" model Bouzouki.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Moensch_Haile Plans or Take-offs?.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - New piece of cast iron.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - New Zealand schools going green.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Nitro Paint suppliers in Melbourne.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Oh, the irony....htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Old French Bass full Restoration4.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Post-1926 Weissenborn copy project: the "firefly".htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Re-gluing Bridge.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Re-Topping a Takamine.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Seven strings guitar..htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Shielding Copper or Shielding Paint??.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - small router_end mill bits1.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Snake in the Ar*e?.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - splitting your braces, recycled wood.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - "Stand By Me".htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Such A Deal!.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Taking a Step Towards Buisness.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - The Responsive Guitar2.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - UCLA STUDY (very interesting and short).htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Vacuum Pump Build1.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Wanted: Blueprints for Jazzmaster.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - What wood is this?.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Wood import question.htm
Australian_New Zealand Luthiers Forum :: View topic - Would you line up for 40mins for KFC??.htm

Paul

[charangohabsburg]

And this Is what I was harvesting in my last session:

Taking a Step Towards Buisness-1.htm
Nitro Paint suppliers in Melbourne
Cairns Uke Festival Course 2010 Underway-1
Cairns Uke Festival Course 2010 Underway-2
Cairns Uke Festival Course 2010 Underway-3
Drying Timbers
Re-Topping a Takamine
Shielding Copper or Shielding Paint??
"Stand By Me"
J.F. Custom "Von Trott" model Bouzouki
Guitar Shielding
Carbon Fiber Use In Lutherie-1
Carbon Fiber Use In Lutherie-2 (p.3 missing)

Some redundance is inevitable but does no harm at all

Until now we have salvaged more than 100 thread pages, but unfortunately there will missing be some stuff, but I have no idea how much actually dissolved into thin air.