12 string update pics

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:45 pm

Oh Shit!

Must stop and apologise here and now. My sets came from ALLIED luthiers $10 per set deal around 3 years ago. I am NOT trying to find someone to blame for my whoa's but this has just gutted me and I am pissed about it and I just thought I may have found an answer. Oh yeah, and now I think of it because I am a rude wanker at times,,,,I am so sorry for hijacking YOUR thread Martin

Sorry for the confusion LMI and everyone else and again I am sorry to you too Martin, my bad.

(Really frick'en edgy bout this after all the hard work though)

Kim

Craig · Post by **Craig** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:49 pm

Onya Martin , I'm so pleased that you now have it all sorted out.

Good one Martin !

Cheers mate !

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:59 pm

Kim wrote:Oh Shit!

Must stop and apologise here and now. My sets came from ALLIED luthiers $10 per set deal around 3 years ago.

Kim

Youre not the only one having a bad day mate.

After f****ng up he saddle on my 12 string this morning I went to the bldi dentist with at least three gaping holes in my pearly whites. Dentist wouldnt do any of the fillings there and then and made me make another booking to have the work done...and a second booking to see the dental hygenist. All this after I told the bloke when I made the appointment that I had at least three fillings to be done.

Might whip out to the shed tomorrow and do the fillings myself with the Dremel and the Stewmac precision router attachment. Would be a good chance to test out the new spiral downcut cutters I got in from Stewmac last week.

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:27 pm

Consider the pins on the way.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:47 pm

Thanks mate. Ill pay you back in pins with next Stewmac order.

The extra pins will come in handy.....an hour ago two of the buggers shot out of the bridge on the 12 string, bounced off the ceiling and disappeared behind a pile of tonewood. That's four of the buggers that have done that so far.

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:53 pm

Martin,

If you have a 3 degree reamer and stewi sent you 5 degree pins, this could be your problem. What I am sending 12 x 3 degree slotted ebony pins with MOP dot, hopefully these will see the pin popping come to an end.

Cheers

Kim

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:12 pm

Kim,

Pin popping was because I dont have ramps cut in my bridge pin holes. String was coming up to tension with ball not properly seated.......I was able to tell when the ball seated by the cracking sound the pin made as it bounced off the ceiling.

Lillian · Post by **Lillian** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:10 pm

Excuse the side bar, but would one of you knowledge folk please translate "bldi" for me? I've looked in all the slang dictionaries I could find and came away empty handed. I just want to make sure I understand the nuances is all.

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:24 pm

Bloody hell Lillian I thought that would have been obvious to blind Ned and his dog

Martin, the bridge pins are in an express post bag and are on the way to SA, should be there in Fridays mail at the latest.

Cheers

Kim

Lillian · Post by **Lillian** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:43 pm

Thanks Kim. My fault. I should have been looking up Aussie/Kiwi shorthand.

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:32 pm

kiwigeo wrote:Kim,

Pin popping was because I dont have ramps cut in my bridge pin holes. String was coming up to tension with ball not properly seated.......I was able to tell when the ball seated by the cracking sound the pin made as it bounced off the ceiling.

Shoot me if I am stating the bleedingly obvious here Martin, but don't you kink your strings at the ball end before you insert them? I bend the ball over so from the side the string looks like a - b - then stick it in the hole with the ball forward. That way it seats right the first time and the pins can't pop. (I also get disturbed by the thought that all the holes in the balls do not line up. Anal I know.)

If you do this and you still pop pins, well, could be karma. Were you a bastard in a past life?
Dom

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:50 pm

kiwigeo wrote:Kim,

Pin popping was because I dont have ramps cut in my bridge pin holes. String was coming up to tension with ball not properly seated.......I was able to tell when the ball seated by the cracking sound the pin made as it bounced off the ceiling.

That one's gotta be one of the best I've heard in a while. Thanks Martin. I really needed a good laugh.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:37 pm

Dominic wrote:
If you do this and you still pop pins, well, could be karma. Were you a bastard in a past life?
Dom

No I was a saint in my last life......Im a bastard in my current life.

Balls were bent over but not enough in a couple of the holes obviously.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:41 pm

Okay I pulled out the saddle and infilled the slot. Ive worked out position for new slot with more angle and closer to front of bridge on treble side. Tomorrow Ill re-route the slot and hopefully all the bldi bridge pins I need will turn up and I can do a full string up and continue with setup.

Neck relief is looking ok...with primary strings on theres a bit of relief and with all strings on it should be about where I want it.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:29 pm

Youre a bldi knob mate.

Kim wrote:Bloody hell Lillian I thought that would have been obvious to blind Ned and his dog

Martin, the bridge pins are in an express post bag and are on the way to SA, should be there in Fridays mail at the latest.

Cheers

Kim

Lillian · Post by **Lillian** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:40 pm

kiwigeo wrote:Youre a bldi knob mate.

Kim wrote:Bloody hell Lillian I thought that would have been obvious to blind Ned and his dog

Martin, the bridge pins are in an express post bag and are on the way to SA, should be there in Fridays mail at the latest.

Cheers

Kim

Ah, I love you guys. What a joy it is to start the day off Down Under.
Thank you.

gratay · Post by **gratay** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:15 pm

hope the dentist doesn't have any of these plugging, re-routing problems.

Whatever the hoops and hurdles you have to jump through or over its a bldi nice looking guitar you got coming along there , Martin.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:35 am

Yep, she's a bldi beauty.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:24 pm

Dentist wasnt as bad as I thought it would be. The hygenist does jewellry in her spare time and she gave me details of a place here in Adelaide to get some decent tools.

Allen · Post by **Allen** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:28 pm

Let us know if there's anything that's of interest to us when you check them out.

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:34 pm

Allen wrote:Let us know if there's anything that's of interest to us when you check them out.

Well my dental hygenist was quite interesting. She kept talking about her "girlfriend". I couldnt ask any questions of course because she was busy mucking around inside my mouth

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:00 pm

Okay today I had a deluge of bridge pins......5 sets from Hancock and co and then Kims pins arrived abut an hour later.

Anyway I got all the strings on and tuned her up to pitch and even without the saddle setup she sounds great. Big Dreadie sound and balanced tonally. Even the wife was impressed..and she doesnt impress easily.

Final set up tomorrow and then Sunday will be spent playing the cr*p out of the instrument.

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:11 pm

Excellent Martin, I just love the big full sound of a 12....how, how I wish you were here, we're just two lost souls swimmin in a fish bowl, year after year

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:28 pm

Okay I finally got this sucker finished....saddle got done yesterday and Kims MOP/ebony bridge pins went in and I tuned her up. She sounds nice...loud but balanced..same as the last 6 string I built.

Pics arent the best..the camera's crap.

Dave White · Post by **Dave White** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:11 pm

Martin,

Nice one - that was an interesting journey but you got there in the end. The guitar looks great and I bet it sounds sweet - sounclips please

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