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Alfred J
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Post by Alfred J » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:57 am

Hello,

Well, this is my first attempt at posting and uploading pictures. i'm an expat Australian living in Japan. We will be here for another couple of years, maybe less. For a hobby, I play and build 6 string acoustics. The current project is for a friend, my first paid commission. The little Sony camera we had packed up before I started the build, so I don't have any pics of the top/back bracing. These pics were taken with a Fuji finepix that my brother in law gave us.

There's no finish on it in these photos. I use a double mortice and tenon for the neck-body joint, neck attached for the photo, and the bridge isn't glued on. Top is Lutz spruce, bridge and fretboard are Madagascar RW. Its 13 frets to the body, hence the need for the cutaway.

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Here's the neck in the neck support - just started fitting the frets.

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Headstock with inlay
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the Silky Oak rosette will look gorgeous when its finished but it doesn't show at all in this photo.

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It isn't defying gravity. Should have rotated that one :oops:
Back and sides are Osage orange from Bob Cefalu, bindings are recycled ebony cut from strips that lined the top of some old draws that someone had thrown out. They were shallow draws used for kimono storage. I left the cabinet, took the draws home, cut off the ebony strips and fitted the draws under the bench.

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It has since been poor filled with Z epoxy and sprayed with water base finish. I'll leave it another week before cutting back and buffing with a lambswool pad fitted to an electric drill, and final buffing by hand.

Here's a photo showing Tiger Jarrah binding and Silky Oak purfling from the previous guitar, Wenge Back and sides. A closer shot would show the black fleck through the Jarrah. It doesn't show up too well in this photo.

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Post by Hesh1956 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:50 am

Alfred welcome to the ANZLF!!!

Your work looks superb in all respects my friend and you have a keen design eye as well.

Welcome aboard.

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Post by James Mc » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:00 am

Hi Alfred and welcome
That is a very elegant looking guitar you are building, very classy! What a masterful bit of recycling, ebony bindings and new draws for the work bench… well done.

Also, how did you find the wenge to work with, I kind of like the look but have heard it isn't a fun timber for people with an aversion to power tools (like me).

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Post by sebastiaan56 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:05 am

Hi Alfred,

Welcome, great looking geetars , mate! Im keen to see the silky oak in the rosette, should be stunning,
make mine fifths........

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Post by Allen » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:32 am

Welcome to the forum Alfred. Some really stylish work there. Looks like you've been building for years.

I built one with silky oak bindings on East Indian Rosewood, and the bindings really look great. I found that the wood itself is a little soft compared to other binding material. Is that good to absorb a blow, or bad because it dings up more easily?
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Post by Bob Connor » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:44 am

G'day Alf and welcome on board. Pleased to see you got the log in problem sorted.

Great looking guitars mate.
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Post by Kim » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:05 am

Gday Alf,

Very nice guitar and very tastefully appointed. I have some of BobC's osage orange out in the shed and must say it rings like a bell, probably as good as anything I have tapped upon. It's a very plain looking tonewood though which makes it an ideal canvas to apply understated elegance and class as you have shown here.

Oh, for those interested I believe this "Osage Orange" is from the tropics and should not be confused with the smallish USA variety being "Maclura pomifera" As I understand it would be uncommon for that variety to produce logs large enough from which one could cut a clean guitar set. I believe what we see here is in fact "Maclura tinctoria" (Mulberry Family) at least that is what I have it marked as from when I checked a few years back when I bough a couple of sets, but hopefully Bob Cef could confirm this for us if he drops in later.

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Post by kiwigeo » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:03 am

Gidday there Alf,


A very nice looking instrument there.....sugoku ii desu-yo!

I'd be interested to see your workshop. Are you living in one of the major cities or out in the country somewhere?

I lived in Sapporo for a year back in '89/90 and ended up marrying a local.

Cheers Martin

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Post by Taffy Evans » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:12 pm

Hi Alf Welcome to the forum.

Very nice looking guitars, crisp and clean lines, very appealing. I was going to ask about Osage Orange on the forum, I've heard it called Indian Bow wood. I bought some of a guy in Victoria many years ago. I always wondered if it was a suitable tone wood.
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Post by Alfred J » Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:38 pm

Thanks to all of you for your very kind comments; warm welcome greatly appreciated. There are quite a few topics and questions related to building that I would like to discuss as time becomes available, and I hope I can contribute something worthwhile to the forum. For now, I'll do my best to answer your questions.

James asked about working with wenge. It bends really easily but had quite a bit of spring back. I have a home made drum sander around the side of the house - did most of the thicknessing with that and fished it off with a cabinet scraper and sanded by hand with the grain. I cut the binding channels with a laminate trimmer. I agree, working this stuff with hand tools only does not sound like fun. Now I use Z epoxy for pore filling, and that would be the best choice. At that time I used clear water based filler. I forget how many applications it took. Wenge doesn't have pores, it has craters! The end result turned out OK though. Most sets I've seen on-line - pictures that is - are well quartered. If you can get it a little off quarter the grain patterns are beautiful.

Sabastiaan wanted to see a Silky oak rosette. Here's the one I did for the Wenge guitar. Note that its close to flat sawn to bring out this figure. And Allen is right about it being soft, but unlike Lacewood from South America, Silky is a dream to bend. More about that topic later.

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Kim commented on the Osage orange from Bob C. According to Bob's web site, this wood comes from North Eastern Argentina. The trees are said to be larger than the US variety. I wanted to use it because I'd seen some very promising reports about the tone it helps to impart. tonally its supposed to be a dead ringer for Braz RW. One thing I noticed when I was fitting the neck was the change in the height of the top as humidity changed. Does this mean that the Osage is very stable and that the spruce top expands more with an increase in humidity? I'll wait until its finished before passing judgement. Didn't know it was also called Indian Bow wood. The box is very resonant, a good sign.

Thanks Martin, I don't know about sugoku ii, but thanks for your kind words. We are a long way from Hokaido - too cold for me. We are on the coast, and far enough away from Osaka for comfort and fresh air. The workshop is tiny and very basic, but I do have a Makita thicknesser and Ryobi jointer, so I can dress neck wood. That's handy!

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Post by Dave White » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:24 pm

Alfred,

Welcome to the ANZLF. Nice looking guitar - is that your own design? I really like the purfling and rosette.
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Post by sebastiaan56 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:07 am

Ooohh that rosette is pretty, thanks for posting.
make mine fifths........

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Post by gratay » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:52 pm

welcome Alfred and ditto what everyone else has said
lovely looking instrument.

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Post by Alfred J » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:56 pm

Dave White wrote:Alfred,

Welcome to the ANZLF. Nice looking guitar - is that your own design? I really like the purfling and rosette.
Purfling: strips of colored veneer with a wenge strip (left over from the sides) in the middle. Ebony would have been a much better choice though. The osage orange job has purfling from lmmi.

The design is mine to the extent that any guitar can be called "my design." I did sit down, do the calculations (in inches) and develop the shape. Lower bout 16"; body length 19 3/4" so its a typical jumbo design except for the shorter body and 13 frets to the body. The idea was to get the bridge into the area of the top that's most resonant when tapped. Top bracing is typical X brace pattern with scolloped red spruce braces.

From what i've seen on the net, Australian built guitars are as nice looking, maybe better than anything coming out of US luthier's workshops. The standard is very high.

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Post by kiwigeo » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:17 pm

And the Poms dont build bad axes either :shock:

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Post by Dave White » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:40 am

Alfred,

I meant the purfling on the first guitar (and rosette) but the second rosette is nice too.

I'm glad to see you following your own design and muse rather than sticking to set plans - it's a pet love of mine. I think you will learn a lot more by persuing that route. Show is some pics of you other instruments.
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