Busted peg head

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Once again i'm here to draw on the wealth of knowledge that lurks in this domain.
Another customer another broken instrument, this time a Hofner flamenco , slotted peg head, butted off just above the nut, looks like this has no truss rod, no evidence inside to out, is that normal?. I'm thinking that if there is no truss rod i could inlay a strengthening fillet up the centre of the rear of the neck, and or an overlay veneer on the face of the peg head, what say you oracles???
Rod.

[Kim]

That will glue up beautifully with HHG Rocket. I would set up with a dry run to make sure you have every thing in alignment and right to go clamp wise, then heat each component for a while with hot air, not so hot you damage the finish, and then apply the glue and clamp it up. I would make the glue mix a bit wetter than standard taking the temp up to about 170f. Use plenty and then cleanup the worst around the clamps with a wet sharp stick after it jells. Any voids can be filled with epoxy later and then sort the finish out.

You can just glue with epoxy however it can creep in the heat where as HHG won't move and will give the most invisible glue line of all if done properly.

BTW, from the images it looks like it has sat a while since the break happened. If so I would wipe down each surface 'with' the grain' using a micro fibre cloth and plain hot water being careful not to disturb the wood structure. With HHG you want as much 'close fitting' wood to wood contact as possible...it's bloody strong glue but you want the joint as complete as possible anyhow. Let it dry a day and get into it.

P.S. Most nylon stringed guitars don't have a truss rod.....Rod. and being a Flamenco style they are traditionally light weight.


Cheers

Kim

[simso]

Thats a pretty straight forward repair, no splines needed.

Hide glue is good, titebond is good as well.

If your going for a nice good looking invisible repair you will need to replace the veneer on the headstock as well

If you decide to go splines, heres an overview http://www.ultrainspections.com/Cracked_Headstocks.html

Steve

[simso]

Thats a pretty straight forward repair, no splines needed.

Hide glue is good, titebond is good as well.

If your going for a nice good looking invisible repair you will need to replace the veneer on the headstock as well, cross grain cracks cannot be hidden unless you are extremely talented at touch up painting, and you repaint the grain lines, good violin restorers come to mind here.

If you decide to go splines, heres an overview http://www.ultrainspections.com/Cracked_Headstocks.html

Steve

I re-edited my original post and for some reason ended up quoting myself.

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That's a big help thanks Kim and Steve, this doesn't have any veneer overlay on the face so ill go the HHG bonding method and spot fill any chips with the epoxy and take it from there.
Cheers,,

Rod.

[Nick]

Looks like a nice clean break Rod (no missing chips?) and as the other two have said, I'd just be gluing & clamping. You may want to apply a veneer just on the face depending on how you feel the join looks. I did a similar repair to a steel string near the end of last year & even I was surprised, the joint went together so well it finished up with a hard to see hairline in the factory finish that went all the way around. I probably could have even cleaned it up more by wicking in some thin CA then a light rub with 800 grit & polish but the customer was more than happy with result I'd already achieved.

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The oracles have spoken! and confidence abounds, i'll post some pics when it's together.
Rod.

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All back together again and another happy chappie on his way! I followed your instuctions as close as i could Kim, worked a treat, didn't hide the scar on the face very well although it is level, wiped a few coats of shellac over and a bit of a rub with some polishing cloth. Thanks once again to you all for your helpful advice
Rod.

[simso]

Cool,

There not hard are they, they always look worse then what they actually are.

[Kim]

Onya Rod

It came up well and produced a happy customer so full marks. I've found that if you can get to these kind of breaks when really fresh and clean most will glue up to be near invisible, but if they are left to sit around and collect dust it can make the job more difficult.

Cheers

Kim