Loss of volume

[rocket]

I actually bought a bucket load of the of the bloody things from Stu-mac, they've already said they'd replace at no extra cost, but i intend to return the whole lot of them, S/M are going to credit me the pups and the postage. As far as Benedetto or Seymour Duncan is concerned i can't see how they can do any more for me, lost time , effort, and materials. as you probably realise these things don't just screw on like a PAF.
No cheers today!!!

Rod.

[MBP]

If it is just a magnet that has lost magnetism they can be re-magnatized.

[kiwigeo]

If it is just a magnet that has lost magnetism they can be re-magnatized.

Who's going to do that??

Cheaper for the manufacturer to simply issue a replacement pickup than freight it back to the US, service it and freight it back to Australia. The freight alone would probably cover a large part of cost of a new pickup.

[kiwigeo]

I actually bought a bucket load of the of the bloody things from Stu-mac, they've already said they'd replace at no extra cost, but i intend to return the whole lot of them, S/M are going to credit me the pups and the postage. As far as Benedetto or Seymour Duncan is concerned i can't see how they can do any more for me, lost time , effort, and materials. as you probably realise these things don't just screw on like a PAF.
No cheers today!!!

Rod.

Rod, I'd still make S/M aware of the problem and pass on serial numbers.

[MBP]

If it is just a magnet that has lost magnetism they can be re-magnatized.

Who's going to do that??

Cheaper for the manufacturer to simply issue a replacement pickup than freight it back to the US, service it and freight it back to Australia. The freight alone would probably cover a large part of cost of a new pickup.

Any one with two strong magnets. You can but them fairly cheap and are a must have for people doing heaps of electric guitar work.

I am only talking about the one that is already installed.

[kiwigeo]

If it is just a magnet that has lost magnetism they can be re-magnatized.

Who's going to do that??

Cheaper for the manufacturer to simply issue a replacement pickup than freight it back to the US, service it and freight it back to Australia. The freight alone would probably cover a large part of cost of a new pickup.

Any one with two strong magnets. You can but them fairly cheap and are a must have for people doing heaps of electric guitar work.

I am only talking about the one that is already installed.

You still have to gut the pickup.......as Rod stated, it's a sealed unit.

[MBP]

You still have to gut the pickup.......as Rod stated, it's a sealed unit.

What for?

[kiwigeo]

You still have to gut the pickup.......as Rod stated, it's a sealed unit.

What for?

Ive never remagnetized a pickup but dont you need to know A. which way the poles/arms are oriented and B. polarity of same?

Always happy to learn something new here

[MBP]

Actually you are right Martin.

The benedetto would be like a humbucker so would need the bar taking out. I was thinking singlecoil.

[rocket]

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Ok the pickup is stuffed, it's going back as soon as i figure out how to remove it from the finger rest, does anyone have a quick fix for loosening epoxy?
Cheerio

Rod.

[Nick]

They're going to have to destroy the casing to repair this sucker so I'd say the pickup is essentially bin tucker Rod so personally I'd run a hacksaw blade down the 'tab' close to but not cutting into, the Ebony then just clean off what's left on the pickguard/finger rest with a file & sandpaper. Maybe email StewMac before hand and explain that it's epoxied on so you cant remove it without some level of damage occuring and see what they say.

[Nick]

Actually looking at the underside photo of the pickup they used to seal them completely (you couldn't even see the magnet) , I'm guessing they've had a number of failures of this nature and so I'd say they 'adapted' their manufacturing process so that they can easily recover the blades & magnet without destroying the whole lot....a sad state of affairs if this is the case seeing as it carries a respected builder's name, hopefully he's as pissed as you are that SD are cheapening his name. Mind you, with the number they're churning out perhaps ten dud pups every 1000 they consider it as acceptable.

[rocket]

Thanks Nick, good advice there that i'll heed. I think Stu-mac will understand, their international sales staff are really very helpful when dicey products surface. Now where did i put that 9" angle grinder? must be around here somewhere!
Cheers,,

Rod.

[kiwigeo]

Actually looking at the underside photo of the pickup they used to seal them completely (you couldn't even see the magnet) , I'm guessing they've had a number of failures of this nature and so I'd say they 'adapted' their manufacturing process so that they can easily recover the blades & magnet without destroying the whole lot....a sad state of affairs if this is the case seeing as it carries a respected builder's name, hopefully he's as pissed as you are that SD are cheapening his name. Mind you, with the number they're churning out perhaps ten dud pups every 1000 they consider it as acceptable.

They had a run of completely dead pups at one stage.....this shouldn't happen if QC is doing it's job

[kiwigeo]

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Ok the pickup is stuffed, it's going back as soon as i figure out how to remove it from the finger rest, does anyone have a quick fix for loosening epoxy?
Cheerio

Rod.

Heat gun

[Nick]

Don't know what you are going to replace it with Rod but I'm thinking maybe try the Kent Armstrong that LMI carry? after all it is based on the original Benedetto (not sure if he had to change it's tonal qualities in anyway in order not to clash with the "patented" SD model once he & Bob parted ways?).

[rocket]

I've used several different models of Kent Armstrongs' suspended humbuckers with no complaints, i thinks i'll revisit that.
Rod.

[Clancy]

I've used, and like, the Kent Armstrong version.
Got it from ALS.
It's a different resistance at 7.6k (to the 9.5k Bennedetto).
It's also 'hand wound' - whatever that means these days

[kiwigeo]

It's also 'hand wound' - whatever that means these days

Done by little old ladies...first they teach them to count to 10,000.

[Clancy]

Done by little old ladies...

No Joke!
I had a friend in brisbane (actually, he's another of those swiss folk) who's an electronics wiz.
He ran a business from home and paid the local knitting club ladies to place the components on his printed circuit boards in an area under his high-set house.
The boards would then be sent off to be wave soldered.
Aparantly, not only would they never stop yacking to each other - they never got a component/board wrong!!

[rocket]

I wonder if S/D would be interested in putting them on ? award rates of course!
Rod.

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Well people , happy days are here again, the skies above are clear again. Yes i'm a bit happier today because i managed to remove that troublesome pickup and although i intended to send back the spares i had along with the offending item ,i decided to test one before mounting it on the finger rest, it seemed ok so i've fitted it to the instrument, all looks and sounds good. I still intend to return the rest of the S/D pups i have to point of purchase, i only decided to use the replacement S/D because the finger rest was set up to suit this pup and had i replaced it with a K/A the different mounting tab wouldn't have been compatible with this finger rest as i have it set up. Anyways, i may soon have an opportunity to video this instrument in it's public debut when the Allen Brown Quintet plays the Uptown Jazz Cafe in Brunswick, guitarist Geoff Hughes will be playing the Blackwood and Engleman arch top on the night, So if i get some good footage i'll post it here.
With regards to the "loss of volume " topic, thanks to all who put their two bobs' worth in, i followed Nicks advice, worked out ok.
Cheers,,,
Rod.