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Truss rod installation.

Post by kiwinoz62 » Tue May 14, 2013 8:07 am

Hi everyone,

My current build in progress is an OM cut-a-way, with the truss rod access at the nut as per the plans.
A few questions please:
1/ What keeps this truss rod in place from moving up the neck (away from the sound-hole)?
2/ How do members re-inforce this part of the neck?
3/ How is the truss rod cover mounted in place?
Any unfortunate mistakes with this process would be worth a mention as well.

Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Post by jeffhigh » Tue May 14, 2013 9:30 am

What truss rod are you using?

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Post by DarwinStrings » Tue May 14, 2013 9:38 am

Hi Wayne, reinforce which part of the neck?

Truss rod cover is traditionally screwed in place but you could use neodymiums. Alternatively for the guitar I am on at the moment I have chosen a friction/push fit.

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Post by nnickusa » Tue May 14, 2013 11:24 am

yeah. Double action truss rod shouldn't need any reinforcement, as it acts on itself.....Old style single rods are different....Gilet's site says it has a pdf of using truss rods with thier hardware, but I've never been able to view it. Maybe you need to buy it?
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Re: Truss rod installation.

Post by kiwinoz62 » Tue May 14, 2013 6:30 pm

Hi all,
Sorry for the confusion.
jeffhigh wrote:What truss rod are you using?
The truss rod I have is from a group buy about 2-3 yrs ago, 385mm in length.
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DarwinStrings wrote:Hi Wayne, reinforce which part of the neck?

Truss rod cover is traditionally screwed in place but you could use neodymiums. Alternatively for the guitar I am on at the moment I have chosen a friction/push fit.

Jim
How do others re-inforce the scarf join, part of the neck, as I assume this area would be weakened with removal of material for the truss rod to fit in?
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Post by DarwinStrings » Tue May 14, 2013 11:53 pm

Hmmm I guess it may get a little weaker but still plenty strong enough to hold the strings. I am not sure how you are scarfing but my truss rod housing does not touch the scarf itself. Most of the broken headstocks I have seen don't break the scarf they break the wood and maybe if you reinforced that area that breaks, then a decent blow might just break it somewhere else. I don't add any reo some others here may though.

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Post by demonx » Wed May 15, 2013 12:24 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgB4tjw_ryA

The above link is a video of me routing two truss rod slots for a truss rod that looks very much the same as what you have pictured.

The video shows the marking, setup and the fit. It also shows both a neckthru and a bolt on slot.

In the video the neck is Wenge which is much harder to route than something soft like Mahogany etc, so it puts up a bit more of a fight.

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Post by Allen » Wed May 15, 2013 5:45 am

It depends on where you have your scarf joint. under the fret board, or in the peg head. I always have mine in the peg head and they are reinforced with both a head plate and a back graft. Uke necks get a CF truss rod right through into the head stock (overkill for sure) and guitars get 2 CF truss rods run up either side of the Allied truss rod (that's what you have pictured) with 6mm of neck material on other side of the adjustable truss rod.
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Post by Nick » Wed May 15, 2013 6:28 am

kiwinoz62 wrote:Hi everyone,

My current build in progress is an OM cut-a-way, with the truss rod access at the nut as per the plans.
A few questions please:
1/ What keeps this truss rod in place from moving up the neck (away from the sound-hole)?
As others have said,the truss rod holds itself in place as it resists the neck bow from string pressure, also if you've cut your slot correctly the truss rod should be a nice snug fit to begin with.
kiwinoz62 wrote:2/ How do members re-inforce this part of the neck?
Shouldn't really need re-enforcing unless you have a very narrow neck at the nut (which would be unplayable!). I used to scarf joint my necks (under the fingerboard) and I only ever had one 'break' at the scarf early on in the piece but it wasn't because of the reduced amount of wood at this point, it was a joint failure simply because of a poor joint prep on my part :oops: :oops: & the glue line separated :oops: .
kiwinoz62 wrote:3/ How is the truss rod cover mounted in place?

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