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Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:18 pm
by Allen
This ones been strung up for over a week now and been waiting for the weather to fine up a bit in order to get some pictures. We got a break from the constant downpour of the last 3 months for a few hours today, so out with the camera.
I had planned on building this guitar for some time, and when the customer came around to pick wood, he fell in love with the very pieces I would have use had it been my own. I love it when it works out like that. And it's not often that you get someone wanting a terz guitar.
Anyway, the details are thus:
Back and Sides - Zircote
Top - Adirondack Spruce
Bindings - Blackwood
Neck - Brazilian Mahogany
2 Carbon Fibre rods plus double action truss rod
Fret Board - Minneretchi
Bridge - Minneretchi
Bridge patch - Honduran Rosewood
Braces - Adi Spruce
Linings - Spanish Cedar
Fret Wire - Gold EVO
Tuners - Golden Age Restoration Tuners, Antique finish with etching
Finish - Mirotone 3220 over WEST Systems
Stings - 12 - 54 tuned 3 half steps up to Terz tuning

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Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:21 pm
by Clancy
Oh Baby, come home to Papa!
drooool.....
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:29 pm
by ozziebluesman
What an unreal little guitar! The headstock is a stunning feature and your finish is first class as per usual. Love the fret marker shapes as well. Beautiful mate!
Cheers
Alan
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:08 pm
by Kim
Yes this one is a lovely looking little guitar Al. I really like the delicate structure of the peghead, very nice indeed. By delicate I mean it is elegant, yet the tuners butch it up just enough to give balance so the look is classy rather than dainty.
Great work as usual mate.
Cheers
Kim
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:53 am
by charangohabsburg
What a beautiful guitar! Great artwork, including the pictures themselves!

Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:23 am
by John Maddison
Fretboard and rosette inlays - classy combo

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Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:31 am
by Lillian
It's beautiful. The timber choices and appointments are stunning. How are you going to let that one go?
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:51 am
by Allen
Lillian wrote:It's beautiful. The timber choices and appointments are stunning. How are you going to let that one go?
That's easy Lillian. She's paid for.

Just waiting on a case from Cedar Creek that's suppose to be in the mail.
Thanks everyone for your kind comments. Trying to take pictures of these things is actually a lot harder than one imagines. Reflections and such either have to be eliminated....no easy feat, or try and make a feature of them....that's not so easy either.
I was trying to go with a bit of a vintage look, but the wood choices give it a rather modern flair, so it's a blend of both I guess. I'm pleased with the outcome and I think I pulled that off here.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:34 am
by Lillian
Allen wrote:Lillian wrote:It's beautiful. The timber choices and appointments are stunning. How are you going to let that one go?
That's easy Lillian. She's paid for.

Just waiting on a case from Cedar Creek that's suppose to be in the mail.
Well that does take a bit of the sting out of it, now doesn't it.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:45 am
by Nick
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:42 pm
by Dominic
Lovely little guitar Allen. Must be proud of this one.
What kind of sound does the design in general produce, relative to an OM say?
Cheers
Dom
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:13 am
by Allen
This one has lots of fundamental and each note is very clearly defined. The Adi spruce is just so very stiff that it's going to take some time to open up. 3 weeks with strings on it, and it's just getting to where my other guitars have got to in a day or two.
I tried tuning to standard tuning, but the strings just wouldn't drive this one at all. So at a terz tuning is obviously brighter than your regular OM. Volume is building as it's opening up, as is the sustain which is really great. The customer is going to be picking it up in May when he's in Cairns and I'll try to get a video with sound sample if he's willing.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:41 am
by Luke
Hi Allan, wow this one looks wonderful.
Can you elaborate more on the tuning.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:04 am
by Bob Connor
Lovely work as usual Allen.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:51 pm
by Allen
Found this on the Acoustic Guitar Forum. It is a copy of a letter from Dick Boak that goes in the case pocket of every Style 5 Mini Martin
Dear Martin Enthusiasts,
The fact that you are reading this letter means you are probably one of a select group to have in your possession one of the Size 5 “Mini-Martin” guitars. These little instruments are very close to my heart and I am proud to have played a part in reviving them for this special Martin edition. As many of you know, Size 5 Martin models came to be known as “terz” guitars because the instrument was invariably tuned to a minor third (3 half notes) above standard guitar tuning or G, C, F, Bb, d, g.
The Mini-Martin is equipped from the factory with Martin MSP-4050 Custom Light “SP” Phosphor Bronze strings. I recommend that you first tune your Mini-Martin to standard pitch (E, A, D, G, b, e). You’ll see that the strings are not stretched quite tight enough. Play the bass “G” note at the third fret, then tune the low “E” string up to that note. Accordingly, tune all of the remaining strings up three half steps to achieve the terz tuning: G, C, F, Bb, d, g. Now the strings will feel more correctly tensioned.
I personally prefer to string my personal Size 5 instrument with a customized “high string” or “Nashville tuning” set. This is similar to using the high strings only from a 12-string set. The first four (bass) strings are thus an octave higher while the two treble strings remain unchanged. I first saw such as string set when I visited Paul Simon. I was so impressed, I came back and experimented with a variety of gauges. My clear preference is:
Standard Pitch Gauge Terz Tuning Bb Tuning
E .025” wound G (one octave higher) F
A .017” plain C (one octave higher) Bb
D .013” plain F (one octave higher) F
G .008” plain Bb (one octave higher) Bb
B .012” plain d d
e .010” plain g f
I have enclosed a customized set of these “high” strings. They have an extremely sweet, almost “piano-like” tone. I encourage you to experiment with both standard and alternate tunings using these strings. For example, tuning the two G strings down a full step to F and the C string down to a Bb, yields an open Bb tuning. These string sets are not yet available in stores, so if you fall in love with this tuning, you might want to pick up individual string gauges to make up your own sets. I hope you enjoy the Mini-Martin as much as I do!
Sincerely,
dick boak
C. F. Martin & Co., Inc.
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NOTE:
High string standard pitch for mini
E .032
A .023
D .016
G .011
b .017
e .013
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:04 pm
by Luke
Thanks Allan it is sinking in now.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:33 pm
by liam_fnq
It looks fantastic against the background of those beautiful gardens. I'm no accountant but you should be able to write off those landscaping costs as a business expense now

Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:14 pm
by christian
Allen !!! what a beautiful instrument !!! first class workmanship all the way, I'm a huge fan of the smaller bodied guitars much more focused tonally and aesthetically, as mentioned its super elegant because you kept it relatively simple and let the wood speak for itself.
Awesome work mate !!!
Cheers,
Christian.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:26 pm
by Taffy Evans
Wonderful looking guitar Allen, very attractive and nice work.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:33 pm
by MBP
Lovely guitar!!!
Who did you get the ziricote off?
What a lovely piece.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:46 am
by Allen
That set came from Don Williams many years ago now when he was getting out of the tone wood business.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:21 pm
by Bruce McC
Hi Allen
Nice looking guitar. Do you insert bushes into the peghead to support the
tuners posts ?
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:41 am
by Allen
No bushes on this one. The first one I did used different tuners and I did install bushes, but it was a real pain in the arse to get them in.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:41 pm
by Bruce McC
Hi Allen
Thanks for your reponse. I think I can imagine why you say what you say.
Is it common practice to fit bushings to tuner posts on slotted peghead steel string
guitars?
I am currently working on an OM style and am planning to use Golden Age Restoration
tuners with a slotted peghead Queensland maple neck, hence my enquiry.
Re: Zircote / Adirondack Style 5 Terz
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:09 pm
by Allen
I'd never use bushings on a slot head again after that first time around.