Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
This is the first concert I've done in quite some time. Seems that everyone want's larger instruments, but having been sent 3 sets of Milo from Hawaii and asked to provide some feedback on its characteristics, I thought it was time I built one.
This wood when freshly milled has some extraordinary colors from rich plum, mauves, brown and tan. After a bit they mellow out and loose some of that vibrancy, but they still display a reddish hue. It has a sweet smell that I quite like, but others have told me that they don't.
To me, almost everything about its characteristics are very muck like Blackheart Sassafras. It's very fine grained, reasonably easy to bend, but will want to straighten out on you if you let heat get back into the piece. I bent this set by hand on the hot pipe to get a feel for it. I would imagine that going with a heat blanket wouldn't pose any problem at all. There was no tendency for it to want to fracture on the very tight bends on the waist and upper bout on this instrument.
It runs through the drum sander very well, with virtually no tendency to clog the paper or burn.
Pore filling is easy, as it's very fine grained with small pores. It only took two sessions to fill this one for a gloss finish.
It's a little reactionary to swings in humidity, and unbraced plates will display a bit of movement. But that could just be these particular sets, as they are not dead on the 1/4. In either case, it's not an issue once braced and the box closed up.
From the little I could find out about using Milo in a uke, the consensus seems to be that it won't work well as a top. And I would totally agree about this. The tap tone like Blackheart Sassafras is pretty uninspiring. So I paired this one up with a Red Spruce top. Red Spruce has everything going for it that I like in a soundboard, and on this instrument, it works very well. The tone is a bit hard to describe, and as I've used Red Spruce a lot and know it pretty well, none have sounded like this instrument. So I have to assume that the back and sides are altering the tone to a degree I haven't experienced with other builds.
I would describe to tone to be sweet, full, well rounded with a quick attack that you get in the smaller body instruments, and a long sustain. But there is something else about it that I just can't put my finger on. Maybe Liam can, as he had a bit of a play on it a day after the strings went on.
Anyway, enough of that and on to the details
Back and Sides - Milo
Top - Red Spruce
Neck - Spanish Cedar
Fret Board - Gidgee with 12" radius
Bridge - Gidgee
Bindings - Blackwood
Purflings - black /red/black
Rosette - York Gum Burl
Head Plate - Jarrah
Tuners - Grover
Finnish - Mirotone 3220
Strings - South Coast Ukuleles - LMU
This wood when freshly milled has some extraordinary colors from rich plum, mauves, brown and tan. After a bit they mellow out and loose some of that vibrancy, but they still display a reddish hue. It has a sweet smell that I quite like, but others have told me that they don't.
To me, almost everything about its characteristics are very muck like Blackheart Sassafras. It's very fine grained, reasonably easy to bend, but will want to straighten out on you if you let heat get back into the piece. I bent this set by hand on the hot pipe to get a feel for it. I would imagine that going with a heat blanket wouldn't pose any problem at all. There was no tendency for it to want to fracture on the very tight bends on the waist and upper bout on this instrument.
It runs through the drum sander very well, with virtually no tendency to clog the paper or burn.
Pore filling is easy, as it's very fine grained with small pores. It only took two sessions to fill this one for a gloss finish.
It's a little reactionary to swings in humidity, and unbraced plates will display a bit of movement. But that could just be these particular sets, as they are not dead on the 1/4. In either case, it's not an issue once braced and the box closed up.
From the little I could find out about using Milo in a uke, the consensus seems to be that it won't work well as a top. And I would totally agree about this. The tap tone like Blackheart Sassafras is pretty uninspiring. So I paired this one up with a Red Spruce top. Red Spruce has everything going for it that I like in a soundboard, and on this instrument, it works very well. The tone is a bit hard to describe, and as I've used Red Spruce a lot and know it pretty well, none have sounded like this instrument. So I have to assume that the back and sides are altering the tone to a degree I haven't experienced with other builds.
I would describe to tone to be sweet, full, well rounded with a quick attack that you get in the smaller body instruments, and a long sustain. But there is something else about it that I just can't put my finger on. Maybe Liam can, as he had a bit of a play on it a day after the strings went on.
Anyway, enough of that and on to the details
Back and Sides - Milo
Top - Red Spruce
Neck - Spanish Cedar
Fret Board - Gidgee with 12" radius
Bridge - Gidgee
Bindings - Blackwood
Purflings - black /red/black
Rosette - York Gum Burl
Head Plate - Jarrah
Tuners - Grover
Finnish - Mirotone 3220
Strings - South Coast Ukuleles - LMU
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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
That Milo is a really beautiful looking timber Allen, the ukes not too bad either, great job. Wayne
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
I'd like to say it again: Excellent work Allen!
where did you get the Milo source if you dont mind to share?
where did you get the Milo source if you dont mind to share?
Howard
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Hi Alan
Stunning work as usual
regards Steve
Stunning work as usual
regards Steve
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Once again a build that quietly proclaims "pure class" Allen. Pretty sure you can do away with your logo, no doubting who made this 

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Kevin
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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Bloody lovely work Allen, Milo never heard of it but it looks like lovely timber.
Steve
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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Another great looking Barron River Uke - so... nothing new! 
Is the headstock shape matching bridge a new idea?
For my taste the bridge pins look a bit oversized, which of course has to do with the smaller than usual ukulele size (for your ukes). Well, in the end the bigger looking pins just emphasize the "cuteness" of the smaller instrument and it is a matter to get used to look at it like that- in the end, ukes should not look like downsized guitars, and small ukes not like downsized bigger ukes.

Is the headstock shape matching bridge a new idea?
For my taste the bridge pins look a bit oversized, which of course has to do with the smaller than usual ukulele size (for your ukes). Well, in the end the bigger looking pins just emphasize the "cuteness" of the smaller instrument and it is a matter to get used to look at it like that- in the end, ukes should not look like downsized guitars, and small ukes not like downsized bigger ukes.
Markus
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It's only the others who suffer.
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
I've been trying to refine some of the details on the look of my instruments, and the bridge is just one spot. I had tried to make one like this before, but just couldn't get the proportions even close to where I was happy, so never installed on an instrument. This one is better, but as you said, the proportions still need a bit of tweaking. But it's getting there.
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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Looking again at it I think that the 1st and 4th pin are very close to the edge of the bridge, closer than (half) the distance between them. Probably this is the greater "proportions issue" than the size of the pins or the shape of the bridge themselves. Not easy but so far pretty well done I think!Allen wrote:This one is better, but as you said, the proportions still need a bit of tweaking.
Markus
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It's only the others who suffer.
To be stupid is like to be dead. Oneself will not be aware of it.
It's only the others who suffer.
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Ukeleles as such don't really inspire me, but every Barron River uke I see is such a work of art that I can't help but sit up and take notice. Beautiful woodwork! Ed.
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Great work yet again Allen. The more I see Red Spruce the more I love it, it's just so much more interesting than Sitka and Milo?! Hmmm never heard of it as a wood, always thought it was a drink that is a staple in any Kiwi's diet!

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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Excellent compilation Allen!! & that Milo combo, your making us thirsty for MORE please
Barron River Rules!!
Gaz

Barron River Rules!!
Gaz
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Got a tenor underway right now with the linings going in today. Shouldn't be that far off before I'm spraying some lacquer.
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Allen, slow down the building. Not only do you make the rest of us look lazy but you run the risk of having people think you've got a sweatshop out in the garage.
Mind you, with the temperatures this summer every workshop is a sweatshop.
Miguel

Mind you, with the temperatures this summer every workshop is a sweatshop.
Miguel
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
I have 6 instruments on the go right now Miguel. With another tenor commission being negotiated and nearing finalisation. I'm too busy to slow down and sweat. 

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Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Nice one again Allen. Your output is relentless!
Your heel shape has changed again also. Just trying this out or is it a keeper?
Your heel shape has changed again also. Just trying this out or is it a keeper?
Craig
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I'm not the sharpest tool in my shed
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Details are always evolving Craig. And some of the shape on this heal being different to others that I've posted here is related to the depth of the sides on a concert as compared to the larger instruments. The heel cap detail has been part of my look now for a while now and it certainly stays. It's surprising how many comments I get on it.
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Nice looking Uke Allen. Your rosette looks fantastic.
Re: Milo and Red Spruce Concert Ukulele
Cheers Ross.
Got a tenor in Milo and Red Spruce ready to glue on the bridge, along with a few others nearing completion. Photo's to follow.
Got a tenor in Milo and Red Spruce ready to glue on the bridge, along with a few others nearing completion. Photo's to follow.
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