Dead notes on 13th fret
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Dead notes on 13th fret
Hi, I have just finished my 6th Gore falcate style SS guitar - 12 frets to the body. All the previous ones have sounded excellent - as does #6. However it has several notes fretted on the 13th fret that are very muted: C, G#, D#, A#. Other notes above the 12th fret sound fine as do those same notes played elsewhere on the fingerboard. Any ideas for what might be going on???
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
I guess the fret is loose, you may need to glue it in place. Tap with something hard (but not to hard so you don't damage the fret) and see if it sounds different that the other frets. A loose fret will have a dead sound compared to a properly seated fret.
Cheers
V.
Cheers
V.
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Loosen off some tension from the strings and see if problem still there. If so then I'd be looking at fret issues.
Martin
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Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Thanks for the input. I loosened the strings a tone and the problem persists. I also tried hammering the fret down but no change. I’m going to take the fret out, clean the slot and replace it. Hope that works!
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Stanley the guitar looks very smart. I suppose it would be a bit cheap to talk about wolf notes!
Anyway do let us know how you solve the problem.
Cheers Dave
Anyway do let us know how you solve the problem.
Cheers Dave
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Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Hi Stanley,
Did you use carbon fiber stiffeners in the neck?
That may be the issue if you haven't.
Cheers
Alan
Did you use carbon fiber stiffeners in the neck?
That may be the issue if you haven't.
Cheers
Alan
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Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
I hope I'm not sounding condescending here but you did try and the hammer the 14th fret down, not the 13th? Have you tried a fret rocker or anything flat than can span 3 frets to confirm a high fret?
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
It's my understanding a wolf tone would generally sound a bit louder than surrounding notes.
A few things to try:
1) damp other strings when plucking one of the offending strings.
2) I assume you've got the T nuts fitted to inside of the ribs...you could try fixing some weights to same to change top frequencies. Alternately try some blue tack stuck to the top in various locations.
A few things to try:
1) damp other strings when plucking one of the offending strings.
2) I assume you've got the T nuts fitted to inside of the ribs...you could try fixing some weights to same to change top frequencies. Alternately try some blue tack stuck to the top in various locations.
Martin
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
I don't know. You work up a little joke and nobody notices!
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Dave
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Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
LOL..unfortunately when you build a highly responsive guitar you often also build an instrument that's often more prone to wolf tones and other similar issues.
I've just finished a falcate braced classical that has some nasty metally loud sounds happening around b/b flat.
I've just finished a falcate braced classical that has some nasty metally loud sounds happening around b/b flat.
Martin
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Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Hi all, Thanks for the suggestions. I removed the 13th fret and reinstalled a new one using gel super glue to lock it in place. The dead notes are now gone. It sounds great up and down the entire fretboard!!
Re: Dead notes on 13th fret
Well that was a bit too easy. Good to hear you've solved the issues.
stanleywolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:07 amHi all, Thanks for the suggestions. I removed the 13th fret and reinstalled a new one using gel super glue to lock it in place. The dead notes are now gone. It sounds great up and down the entire fretboard!!
Martin
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