Carving necks on the spindle moulder

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Carving necks on the spindle moulder

Post by nkforster » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:16 pm

Just saw this on the web:

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Any ideas on how to work out the shape of the mdf template that goes at either end? It rubs against the frame. It seems to me to be an enlarged version of the shape you want the neck to be at either end, but I can't work out how you'd size it.

Anything like this appeared in the lutherie mags over the years?

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Post by simso » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:36 pm

There are a few plans out there from memory, the cams on the ends are typically just a projection of desired end shape. Those ones in the picture would be some similiar calculation upscaled, interestingly they are using a spindle moulder so thatmay be why itsall upscaled size wise, most people have small table router setupsso have small cams

I know a guy in the states that was years back looking at making a commercial version of these available with aluminium cams etc, will send him an email and ask where hes at


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Post by blackalex1952 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:47 pm

Would there be a bearing on the bottom of the spindle moulder for the carriage to run against? It looks like it would have to be so...-Ross
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Re: Carving necks on the spindle moulder

Post by nkforster » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:32 pm

blackalex1952 wrote:
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Would there be a bearing on the bottom of the spindle moulder for the carriage to run against? It looks like it would have to be so...-Ross
You could run it off a bottom bearing or the table slot. Looking at this video I think the feller runs it off the sliding table:


youtu.be/d4ubNo3pS0g

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Post by nkforster » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:36 pm

There is a similar idea here, but for the router.

youtu.be/fv-mLftEiRM

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Post by Dave M » Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:35 am

Nigel, Nigel what has your spokeshave done to you?!
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Re: Carving necks on the spindle moulder

Post by nkforster » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:32 am

After the first 500 necks or so you fancy a change Dave...

I bought a spindle moulder on the cheap the other day, now I have to find things to do with it. I've a spiral head coming soon from the UK and a couple of tenoning heads to cut the neck joint in one pass. Should be fun.

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Post by simso » Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:36 pm

Beauty of a jig like that, it allows you to run a few profiles which are customizable, down side of those router bits you see for shaping necks from stewmac etc is that its one shape.

If you go down the path of making a jig, yell out and make two :D , I will happily buy one from you.

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Post by nkforster » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:52 pm

It'll be the spindle moulder jig I'll be making. You're best off with a spiral head cutter for that sort of cut. Cheaper from the UK than here.

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Post by simso » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:10 pm

Yeh, i got a spindle moulder

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Post by nkforster » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:13 pm

Do you recall where you've seen plans?

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Post by simso » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:53 pm

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Post by nkforster » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:23 am

Only got a Facebook link, I'll post a proper video when I've remade the jig. But it works! Stick around to the end, you'll see the neck, straight off the machine with about 5 seconds of sanding with 180 grit.

https://www.facebook.com/nigel.forster. ... 5459890088

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Post by simso » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:31 am

Looks good, the issue for me has always been lack of work and personal time to actually make one.

When you make one available for sale, I will be at front of the que :D

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Post by nkforster » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:18 pm

simso wrote:
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Looks good, the issue for me has always been lack of work and personal time to actually make one.

When you make one available for sale, I will be at front of the que :D

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Anyone else fancies a spindle moulder neck jig? Send me a PM if you do.

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Post by nkforster » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:26 pm

The latest version of the jig - working well. Fingers out of harms way and the jig is easily adjustable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlpEYE1728

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Post by simso » Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:59 pm

Works brilliantly, my table doesnt have runners on it, but im sure i could make a dummy set

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Re: Carving necks on the spindle moulder

Post by nkforster » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:39 am

No slots at all Steve? However you do it, you wouldn't want to raise the axis of the jigs' rotating part. It would take the neck too high over the cutter. You could run it like a big bench hook - that is how I cut the tenon on the spindle. But if you did that you'd need a different set up for the stops.

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Post by simso » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:03 am

Good idea, i could extend the ends over like a hook on the flat top

This is my one, purchased it about 10 years ago, done maybe 100hrs of work on it, so its just barely broken in.

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Re: Carving necks on the spindle moulder

Post by nkforster » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:35 pm

More spindle moulder fun - neck tenon in one pass:


youtu.be/FWuHAYrThYE

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