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Check out this Rosette

Post by Paul B » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:59 am

I was just googling rosette images and came across this one, thought I'd share:

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Raises guitar building to a whole other level. The website says "The 5-course guitar shown above – based on an original by Alexandre Voboam, 1680"

Here's the web address: http://www.lutesandguitars.co.uk/

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Post by Kim » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:18 am

1680 you say Paul, I did not know people where experimenting with LSD back then! :lol:

Pretty impressive work but destine to forever sit behind a sheet of glass.

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Post by graham mcdonald » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:42 pm

Those 3D parchment rosettes are not as hard to do as they look. It is just a matter of cutting out the pattern on a sheet of parchment (or parchment paper), gluing that down to another sheet and cutting that one, and so forth. Each of the horizontal layers is only 3-4 layers glued together, and then they are attached to a parchment or paper cylinder.

Mind you, those folks in the UK make quite astonishing period instruments, and those little christmas trees are a marvel. Mine were always a level or two rougher than that :?

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Post by Allen » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:02 pm

You say it's not that hard to do, but I had to get my glasses just to see the detail. I got no hope of cutting something like that. :shock:

Beautiful work though.
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Post by BillyT » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:45 am

This type rosettes is not just for ornamentation! What they used to do many centuries ago is use these type of decorations to peel potatoes! A real time saver! Then cut the spud into slices or french fries with the strings.

That's true!

er....well! :P

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Post by Colin S » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:25 pm

Those that know me from the OLF will know that I do a fair bit of restoration work for some of the London museums of their historic plucked instruments. So I've had to learn to make these parchment roses, and more importantly, to restore existing ones. In fact they are not that technically difficult to do, just time consuming and fiddly. Carving a lute type rose from the soundboard, takes more learning and time.

If anyone wants to make a Verboam or similar guitar needing one of these then they can always go to Elana Dal Cortivo who will make them to order for you for what is a very reasonable price.


http://www.parchmentroses.com/plucked.htm

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Post by matthew » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:35 pm

I have just spent an hour looking at the link to all those parchment roses, completely gobsmacked ...

How strong is parchment? Where do you get it? Find a goat and skin it?

Does it curl? how stable is it in humidity? Do instruments with parchment roses suffer from buzzes and rattles??

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Post by Dominic » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:51 pm

Amazing. But again, you guys should become members of the GAL and get their journal. If you think this is cool, wait until you get amazing stuff like this delivered every quarter.
And Graham is in it sometimes.
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Post by Stephen Kinnaird » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:23 am

How would you like to dust that thing?
How would you go about cleaning it?
Seems a bit impractical.
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Post by graham mcdonald » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:16 am

Here is a woman in Italy who makes them for a living

http://www.parchmentroses.com/plucked.htm

They are actually quite fun to make. Parchment can ge bought ar art supply shops, used by folks who do fancy calligraphy and with a circle cutter, a scalpel and a little hole punch quite intricate things can be made.

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