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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Beya » Wed Oct 26, 2022 7:56 pm

Hello all forum members and administrators!

I’m one of the lurkers around here.

I’m Manuel, from Spain. I’ve worked as professional electric guitars maker some years ago, in Madrid, where I learned with one of the best masters on the country in that field. But someday I let everything behind me and stared a new life making and learning new things. Here in Spain we have a telling maybe you could understand: “much things apprentice = no one thing master” (please excuse my English writing) and I do feel like an eternal apprentice about everything that catch my eyes.

From time to time I struggle searching for motivation on guitar making again (I do some ocasional repairs but It isn’t my bread and butter) and then one day I knew about the books and that new way of looking into the whys of guitars, so as soon as I purchased them I joined the forum to lurk in, but it hasn’t been till a few months ago that I got deeply onto the reading, made my calculations and plans, hoping I‘ll be able to get out of the “imagination realm” (thinking, lurking, reading, drawing, dreaming…) a place on my mind where I can do whatever I want without facing the reality but in which I also can be trapped on the “analysis paralysis “ by not being sure, not having all the tools and materials I do need, fear about failure, and the last and heavy one: “yes, let’s spend a lot of money and time to make a guitar nobody will buy🤦
Those are traps I bet some of you know well.

I’m actually making the jigs, and learning to work by hand, and I’m loving it! Oh, how nice is to make a nice wooden plane, sharpen the blade with ease and plane the wood with accuracy, without noise neither dust! (Since the beginning I’ve got access to all the usual machines on a professional guitar making workshop and never take my time on learning some basic skills as planning).

I’ve made about 70 Selmer style guitars, but it was while working later on a small factory where speed was the key, so I learned a lot about batching processing, and tools and jigs for them but nothing about soundboard propertys, acoustics, and all the small and not so small details that make a great instrument. “Good enough for me” where the words I most frequently listened to when working at that shop, and maybe it was good enough for the business goal, but for sure, it was not good enough for me. So I know nothing about acoustic guitar making but some theory.

The first trials on falcate bracing will be on an electro-acoustic with mahogany hollow body and spruce flat top acoustic soundboard, piezo pickups for the “acoustic “ and one humbucker for the electric side. But unlike most electro-acoustics I know, I’ll try to make the soundboard as in a real acoustic one (thickness, rigidity, bracing) hoping the piezo sound will get closer to a “real acoustic through piezos”. And since it’s an instrument just for the joy of building and learning, I don’t care much about it (but I do really feel it will sound great for my playing style).

I’ve never used epoxy for bracing (neither tested soundboards for structural characteristics) and I do prefer to do it on that guitar that on the Grand auditorium model I want to build next

As soon as I have something to share I’ll let you know.

Meanwhile, I’d like to thank you all for sharing your knowledge and thoughts and helping us the lurkers to get access to your knowledge.

Here you have some photos of the jigs I’m making now
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almost finished fret saw machine made with an old circular saw machine and a speaker cabinet
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jointer wooden plane, plywood core, cumaru sides and Ipe sole, with veritas plane kit.
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Making the soundboard solera…


And if you click on the Instagram link you’ll see the G.A. molds. with the electro ac. sketch on the rear wall.

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Have a nice day and greetings from León, Spain


Manu

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Mark McLean » Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:01 am

Hi Manuel
Welcome to our forum. You have a lot of experience, but now it sounds like you are finding your passion. That is fantastic. Your workshop and jigs look great. I am looking forward to seeing what you will produce there. Please share your work and your ideas with us. We are far away but have the same interests.
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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:10 pm

Thanks for the post Manuel and the introduction. Looking forward to progress pics of your builds.
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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Insomnomaniac » Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:58 am

Insomnomaniac wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:49 am
So I joined up several years ago, got all excited about starting to build instruments, bought some timber etc...

...then went through a divorce, lost motivation, started a couple of different hobbies instead, and kind of forgot that this forum existed.

Just recently though, I found the slab of Tassie Blackwood I bought about 10 or 11 years ago with the intention of building an electric guitar, and my interest has been rekindled. So here I am. I guess time will tell if I actually get anywhere this time around!
Well I went almost immediately back to lurking, but since this post I have finished that first guitar (a tele), made 2 "matching" electric ukuleles for my kids, and built a second electric guitar which I designed myself.

I'm not building anything right now, but I still have a timber set for a ukulele I meant to build 10 or 12 years ago, and a vague idea that I want to build an electric bass next...

Here's some pics the guitars I've built so far! Very keen to hear any feedback. (and yes, I know the second one needs the strings trimmed - I'm chasing a fault in the wiring of the neck pickup, so l trim them one that's fixed, just in case I still need to take the strings off...)
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Carpenter turned Knifemaker, now tentatively trying Luthiery as yet another hobby on the list...

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by clamman » Sun May 14, 2023 11:47 pm

Hello everyone! I'm a long time woodworker but first time guitar builder from the United States. Presently, I'm in the process of jigging up - which in itself seems never ending - molds, radius dish, acrylic brace templates, go-bar deck and rods, etc. Our city has a pretty decent makerspace with two large CNC machines both router and laser in addition to the standard Bandsaws, J/P, TS, Router/Shaper tables which is neat. Working on a CNC is brand new to me and so far shockingly enjoyable.

I also have access to a few interesting local woods which I've resawed for backs and sides - Black Locust and Osage Orange. So I have a few sets that will be ready in a year or two of each. For soundboards, I bought a few sets from Rudi Fuchs and have been pleased with both the density and appearance.

Finally, I purchased one the last copies of Trevor's books at Stew Mac a few weeks ago. Thankfully, I've got an exceptionally gifted 7th grade son to explain the math to me and though he has little interest in the woodworking side - he's absolutely enamored with the applicability of the math. So, that works for both of us.

I've thoroughly enjoyed your community here and hope that over the years I can evolve from just taking your advice and guidance to passing along some of my own to future new members.

Be well everyone.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Mark McLean » Mon May 15, 2023 1:42 am

Hi claman
It is great that you are wanting to bring your woodworking chops to guitar making. You will find that it is not too difficult and I am sure every step in building a guitar will be within your competence level. But there are a lot of steps. Don’t obsess to much about jigs - you can get by with very simple kit if necessary. Share your work with us as you go.
Trevor’s books are great. You can build a guitar without using any of the equations, but it great to delve into the theory if you (or your son) are interested. Volume 2 has a lot of really practical building advice, and Trevor’s partner in authorship Gerard Gilet is a masterful luthier. If you get stuck on any practical aspects just post some questions here.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Mark McLean » Mon May 15, 2023 1:47 am

Hi Insomnomaniac
Sorry, I had not noticed your post until now. I really like your Telecaster style guitar. Great burst shading on the body, neck and headstock. It looks really “hand made” and just makes me want to pick it up and play.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by mtodd » Fri May 19, 2023 7:58 am

Insomnomaniac wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:58 am
Insomnomaniac wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:49 am
So I joined up several years ago, got all excited about starting to build instruments, bought some timber etc...

...then went through a divorce, lost motivation, started a couple of different hobbies instead, and kind of forgot that this forum existed.

Just recently though, I found the slab of Tassie Blackwood I bought about 10 or 11 years ago with the intention of building an electric guitar, and my interest has been rekindled. So here I am. I guess time will tell if I actually get anywhere this time around!
Well I went almost immediately back to lurking, but since this post I have finished that first guitar (a tele), made 2 "matching" electric ukuleles for my kids, and built a second electric guitar which I designed myself.

I'm not building anything right now, but I still have a timber set for a ukulele I meant to build 10 or 12 years ago, and a vague idea that I want to build an electric bass next...

Here's some pics the guitars I've built so far! Very keen to hear any feedback. (and yes, I know the second one needs the strings trimmed - I'm chasing a fault in the wiring of the neck pickup, so l trim them one that's fixed, just in case I still need to take the strings off...)

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The Tele looks great! I look forward to seeing more of your projects.
Cheers,
Matt

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by jjh » Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:17 pm

I'll say hi again as I can't remember the last time I posted but don't want to be booted out.

Thanks

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:27 am

jjh wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:17 pm
I'll say hi again as I can't remember the last time I posted but don't want to be booted out.

Thanks
Thanks for touching base with us jjh....your account is safe. Hope all is well with you mate. Drop us a post when you can with news on what youve been up to of late.
Martin

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Nick » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:09 am

Just hanging on in there. Used to be a fairly active member here on the forum (a few of the 'old timers' may remember me :wink: ) but unfortunately my wife's health has taken a massive downturn so when I'm not working to pay the bills I'm caring for her so I don't get much time at all for guitar building. I am currently re-topping a Taylor travel guitar for a work colleague but it's taken me over 12 months to get that done and it's still not completely finished! Thank goodness he's not in any rush for it :oops: But that's about all really. I've semi-lost the motivation for luthiery at this stage but I hope when things sort themselves out, I can re-ignite the passion as I have a shit load of tone woods just sitting there collecting dust! :lol: Although I can't see myself using all of it even if the passion does return so you never know, you may see some of my stash pop up on the forum for sale at some stage.
But anyway that's where I'm at.
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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Duct Tape » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:17 am

Some pics of my three OO-12 builds.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Joshyouare » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:04 pm

Hi all,

My name is Josh and I'm an amateur/hobby builder based in Brisbane. By day I am a psychology lecturer, and when I can learn how to build guitars at the Brisbane guitar making school. Figured I better stop lurking and put a post up here! :)

I've just finished my first build (well, almost. Still working on the action/intonation as it settles) and am absolutely hooked. Ended up with a lovely little sitka/ebony parlour (see pictures below). I told myself I would take 12 months off between builds, and have lasted just under 4 months before I decided to start #2. This will be my "KS model" (kitchen sink), going for a multiscale grand symphony with arm bevel, rib rest, and maybe a soundport (although Trent is trying to talk me out of the soundport :P) with a tassie grown redwood top, and claro walnut back and sides. Probably far too ambitious for guitar #2, as was using fancy ebony for #1, but I have faith that Trent will guide me through. Although a few times I have had to tell him "You made this jig idiot proof, but you need to make it Josh proof!!".

Here are a few pics of the finished parlour, and some very early shots of number 2!!
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Cheers,
Josh.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Mark McLean » Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:53 pm

Gday Josh, and thanks for jumping in and sharing your work. That looks like a fantastic result for a first build. Much prettier than my #1. The ebony looks fantastic. Was it challenging to work with? I love that you are jumping into #2 promptly, and adding some complexity. I always feel like there is no point in spending a hundred hours building something that is exactly the same as one you could buy in a shop. I am sure that you will be fine with the added details, and don't let Trent talk you out of anything that you really want. We have seen lots of his work with bells and whistles all over, so he can't talk! Progress pictures please.

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:20 am

Welcome to the forum Josh and thanks for putting up the pics of your build. Nice work for a first build and look forward to progress pics of your next project.
Martin

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Joshyouare » Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:02 am

Mark McLean wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:53 pm
Gday Josh, and thanks for jumping in and sharing your work. That looks like a fantastic result for a first build. Much prettier than my #1. The ebony looks fantastic. Was it challenging to work with? I love that you are jumping into #2 promptly, and adding some complexity. I always feel like there is no point in spending a hundred hours building something that is exactly the same as one you could buy in a shop. I am sure that you will be fine with the added details, and don't let Trent talk you out of anything that you really want. We have seen lots of his work with bells and whistles all over, so he can't talk! Progress pictures please.
The ebony mostly behaved, but it certainly required a bit of extra care. One of the sides cracked while I was thickness sanding, which thankfully was an easy CA fix and being a tiny guitar the crack ended up being outside of the side template. It resulted in a surprisingly heavy little parlour, with a surprisngly (and pleasantly) big voice haha!

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Deano2 » Wed May 15, 2024 9:11 pm

Hi all,

Dean here. I posted on the forums over 10 years ago until life kicked in and the workshop went to storage. I've recently unpacked what wasn't sold off and have set up a little workshop. Looking forward to digging through the wood heap and bending some wood again!

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Re: Attention all Lurkers

Post by Mark McLean » Thu May 16, 2024 1:42 am

It is so great to see Nick and Dean showing up here again after all this time.
Good to hear that the interest is still there even if time and opportunity has been leading you elsewhere.
Nick, you were one of the regulars when I was a newby at ANZLF. I hope you get a chance to get back to the wood stash and the tools soon.
Cheers
Mark

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