Glue ?¿?

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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by matthew » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:05 pm

mickeyj4j wrote: Are you serious?¿?
absolutely. hide glue is just lower grade gelatine.

the "clear" grade is almost edible!! in fact I have mistakenly taken a swig of hide glue instead of whisky on several occasions. not pleasant, but I'm still here.

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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by Allen » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:00 am

mickeyj4j wrote:
matthew wrote:Oh and to the original poster ...

cooking gelatine is the same stuff. High purity, works well. Get it at the supermarket and try it!!

and you CAN eat it!
Are you serious?¿?
Oh course he's serious. Gelatine is only highly refined food grade glue.
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by mickeyj4j » Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:46 am

Allen wrote:
mickeyj4j wrote:
matthew wrote:Oh and to the original poster ...

cooking gelatine is the same stuff. High purity, works well. Get it at the supermarket and try it!!

and you CAN eat it!
Are you serious?¿?
Oh course he's serious. Gelatine is only highly refined food grade glue.
Ok never eating it aga in. Don't want my inside stuck together. Now as glue what flavor to get.
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by peter.coombe » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:36 am

While we might think that the processing during manufacture of hide glue will kill off all the nasties and not be any threat to Australian health and agriculture, that is not the case. The processing will kill off bacteria and viruses, but will not kill the prion that causes mad cow disease. That particular nasty will survive cooking, and will survive a long time in glue, and will kill you (and the cow) if you get it, so really is very nasty. There have been cases of mad cow disease in the USA (and Europe of course), so the risk of hide glue containing the prion may be low but is certainly not zero. The risk of getting mad cow disease released into the Australian environment from infected hide glue is low, but if you eat it or feed it to the dog then the risk is not as low. Also, what happens to the glue you discard? The consequences of having mad cow disease get into Australian agriculture would be catastrophic. All exports of Australian meat, live cattle and sheep exports would cease immediately, and probably not resume for a long time. So, unlikely to happen, but if it does happen it would be catastrophic -> high risk. This is how AQIS would be doing their risk analysis and high risk items get stopped at the border.

So, moral of the story - if you do manage to sneak imported hide glue past AQIS, don't eat it or feed it to the dog (or any other animal), and be careful how you dispose of the excess.
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by matthew » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:54 am

That's why I always wash it down with whisky.

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Post by kiwigeo » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:27 am

Shellac is also a food product.....used in the medicine industry for pill/capsule coatings.

So start your day with a nice big bowl of shellac flakes and hide glue....washed down with IMS grade meths :mrgreen:
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by Nick » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:14 pm

kiwigeo wrote:
mickeyj4j wrote:
matthew wrote:Oh and to the original poster ...

cooking gelatine is the same stuff. High purity, works well. Get it at the supermarket and try it!!

and you CAN eat it!
Are you serious?¿?
The Davis company in the auscab's photos is located in Christchurch, New Zealand...my home town. Apart from being famous for contributing to the pollution of the Heatchote River they are also famous for their cooking gelatine.
And the smell of rendering down of animal connective tissue during brew up time :wink: It still remains a problem much to the disgust of the local property developer.
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by Nick » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:20 pm

matthew wrote:
mickeyj4j wrote: Are you serious?¿?
the "clear" grade is almost edible!! in fact I have mistakenly taken a swig of hide glue instead of whisky on several occasions. not pleasant, but I'm still here.
:shock: think I'm more shocked than Mickey was at the thought of eating glue with that statement Matthew! Unless it was cask strength Whisky of course, which has the same consistency but a much better taste :wink: :D
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by mickeyj4j » Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:30 am

Allen wrote:
mickeyj4j wrote:
matthew wrote:Oh and to the original poster ...

cooking gelatine is the same stuff. High purity, works well. Get it at the supermarket and try it!!

and you CAN eat it!
Are you serious?¿?
Oh course he's serious. Gelatine is only highly refined food grade glue.
Ok never eating it aga in. Don't want my inside stuck together. Now as glue what flavor to get.
Just a simple musician who plays for fun and enjoymet here.

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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by simonm » Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:03 am

peter.coombe wrote:… The processing will kill off bacteria and viruses, but will not kill the prion that causes mad cow disease. ….
Which is why in much of Europe food grade gelatin today is actually pig based. Oinks aren't as "crazy" as moo-moos.

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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:39 am

Maybe we should be sticking huge health warning stickers on the outside of guitars containing hide glue? You cant be too careful :shock:
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Re: Glue ?¿?

Post by matthew » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:15 am

"Not for Human Consumption" ??

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Post by kiwigeo » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:49 am

matthew wrote:"Not for Human Consumption" ??
I once saw a kid gnawing on a Spongbob Square pants Uke
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Post by kiwigeo » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:50 am

matthew wrote:"Not for Human Consumption" ??
"No Licks" ?
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