Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

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Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by luke_lee » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:22 pm

I have been asked to make an acoustic guitar similar to the Ian Anderson model by Brooks guitars.
It will have steel strings with a 622mm (approx 24.4") scale length. It has a very narrow body only 246mm at the lower bout and would like your thoughts on a suitable bracing pattern.
I normally use a X-brace pattern with a 100 degree angle but this does not sit well in the narrow body. Any Ideas?

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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by GregL » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:45 pm

Hi Luke,

I like Ian Andersons acoustic guitar playing (Aqualung-era early 1970's). From memory he played very old Martins, so maybe look there for some inspiration (eg ladder bracing near the bottom of this page:

http://theunofficialmartinguitarforum.y ... XfTxkZ25uo

Also Bob Connor has made at least one Terz-size guitar (yours is even smaller than a Terz) - try:

viewtopic.php?t=2867

for some terz talk.

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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by GregL » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:50 pm

Oops I forgot to hit "Preview"! Proper addresses:

http://theunofficialmartinguitarforum.yuku.com
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Featherweight-Champion-1919-Martin-Ditson-34-Size-Terz#.VXfTxkZ25uo

http://www.anzlf.com
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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by Nick » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:30 pm

I'd be thinking about ladder bracing as a 'conventional' route or maybe lattice as something different. Bob builds some great lattice braced guitars so he may add some useful thoughts for you. Falcate may even be a solution too?
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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by Bob Connor » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:17 pm

For something that narrow I'd be inclined to ladder brace it.

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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by Bob Connor » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:32 pm

Or x-brace it like in your diagram.

Put in a very fine finger brace either side.

And a wide (50mm) bridge plate with no other bracing in the lower bout.

Your aim would be to stop the bridge rotating too much by having the bulk of the bridge plate behind the bridge (toward the end block) and placing the finger braces prevent the same. Your treatment of the x-braces in the lower bout

If I read your plan correctly this instrument is 249mm wide at the lower bout. It's very narrow so I would thickness an average Sitka top to somewhere between 2mm and 2.2mm.

The gauge of steel strings will influence things but I doubt whether you'd string anything up with lighter than .011-.050.

I think it would be easy to overbuild something this small.

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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:17 pm

Falcate bracing also an option...see my current parlour build. It has a Lutz top and scale length is 618mm. A Gore style CF reinforced bridge plate and the primary falcate braces that pass over the bridge plate will help minimize bridge rotation.

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Re: Narrow Body Acoustic Bracing Patter

Post by Dave M » Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:27 am

Luke

I have met the guys at Brook and they are a really nice bunch. Given that you are hardly competing with them from Sidney it may be that if you asked they might let you know how they built that guitar.

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