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ziricote gluing HELP

Post by scuffle » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:24 am

Hey guys,

just wondering if there is any sort of special gluing technique i have to use when gluing ziricote? the last fretboard i glued on was ziricote and i used titebond original. I have just have to remove it (because of silly mistakes while carving the neck) and it popped off quite easily and cleanly. I am about to re glue it to a new neck but I wanted to check if titebond is good enough.
i know with cocobolo you have to use epoxy. Is ziricote the same?
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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by 56nortondomy » Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:25 pm

I used titebond on a Ziricote OM and had no issues, i just made sure i gave it a good wipe with shellite before i glued. Wayne

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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by scuffle » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:11 pm

i also give a good wipe with shellite before gluing :) i think ill use epoxy so i dont get any headaches in the future
thanks for the help
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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by demonx » Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:04 pm

I've used Ziricote several times and just used F9 yellow glue as normal, so Titebond will work no problem.

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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by jeffhigh » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:54 am

Wiping with solvent before gluing is not universally accepted.
Many feel that it just mobilises the oils in the timber rather than removing them.
Personally, I just scrape immediately before gluing to have a fresh surface with a lot of surface energy and apply glue or epoxy to both surfaces.

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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by Allen » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:29 am

For oily woods like Cocobolo and Zircote I've used Titebond. Only joint that's failed has been one I wiped with acetone as per recommendation. Turns out that just as Jeff said, oils get pulled out and go everywhere. Now it's just a clean scrape just prior to glueing.
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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by demonx » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:20 am

I do not recommend using titebond with Cocobolo. It's so oily that its virtually waterproof. It's too much of a gamble, thus anytime I use Coco I use epoxy.

Ziricote, Bocote and similar are nowhere near as oily as Coco and can be treated as per the norm.

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Re: ziricote gluing HELP

Post by scuffle » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:52 am

hm...many schools of thought as always :) much to take in!

i think i may doy some tests with off cuts
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