opinions please

[Taffy Evans]

The book I used at the time and showed the doweled tenon was one by Irvin Sloane "Steel-String Guitar Construction", again late 1970's.

[Lillian]

I told you I was getting old and forgetful.

[simso]

If the guitar's too cheap to have a couple of dollars worth of 'extra' wood fitted in such an important area how come the customer's going to the trouble of a repair and not using it as a pizza paddle?

If I said the brand name here on the web, you would be astounded, think of the top 3, it was one of them.

The customer paid thousands for it and it didnt even have a bridge plate, go ISO9000 quality control.....

[Taffy Evans]

Yes Steve, as a repairer I see too much of this sloppy work just because its out of sight of the purchaser, and in top brands that cost over a grand or so. My wife has always picked on me for taking care of detail in places people will never see, my reply is "one day a repairer may take this instrument apart, they'll see".
I will advise the customer to contact their supplier and point out, politely, that they have an instrument that has apparently slipped through quality control.
One well known manufacturer said, when a manufacturing fault was brought to their attention, sorry it's 3 weeks out of warranty, I had to leave that one with the owner of the guitar.

[jeffhigh]

If the guitar's too cheap to have a couple of dollars worth of 'extra' wood fitted in such an important area how come the customer's going to the trouble of a repair and not using it as a pizza paddle?

If I said the brand name here on the web, you would be astounded, think of the top 3, it was one of them.

The customer paid thousands for it and it didnt even have a bridge plate, go ISO9000 quality control.....

Wel it can't be Gibson then..... they just put the bridge plate in the wrong place don't they?

[Taffy Evans]

Here's a couple of beauties. When the bridge was completely removed [only the pins were holding it on] it revealed the double pin holes underneath, a well respected brand.

And....the shaded area on the bridge shows the extent of the bridge plate coverage, it ended at the pin holes. Another well known brand.

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[jeffhigh]

Well the one with the big rectangular hole is a Maton I presume, but what is the other?

[charangohabsburg]

One just has to love those well-respected-brand horror picture shows...

[Taffy Evans]

Hi Jeff, top one is a Guild, bottom a Col Clarke.

[jeffhigh]

Thanks Taffy

[Philstix]

I built a steel string guitar 20 years ago using the David Russell Young book. The neck is glued on with just such a heel joint. I used long set epoxy on the heel and titebond to glue the fingerboard to the top. It has been strung up and played every day for twenty years. It has not moved at all. Epoxy works well because it is an end grain to side grain join which would be problematic for hide glue or aliphitic resin, just be sure to use a good quality long set epoxy. If you screw it up you can always undo it (carefully) with acetone. But if it worries you I'd just do a bolt on.

[Tod Gilding]

Hi Phil, I did screw it up, but with a bolt and insert into the heal along with HHG it is now back in the hands of it's owner and he is very happy

[Matt Bach]

It's all the rage!

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