Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by liam_fnq » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:10 pm

I add 2mm of compensation to the front of the nut. I've got a template that hooks over the nut end of the fret board and is the scale length plus 2mm. That way I can snug the bridge with the saddle in it up against the end of the template and drill some 1.5mm holes for locating pins (brads) into the bridge.

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Thanks for all the info Jeremy.

Note I stole the headstock shape from your maple tenor.....hope you don't mind. I'm also going to nick the bridge design off the same instrument...I don't like the the basic bridge on the plans I'm working off.

The Waverlys.....chosen because theyre nice tuners but also because they can be installed on a thicker than normal headstock. The neck on my uke was a failed neck from a steel string so I was stuck with a headstock that was around 14mm thick after Id applied the veneers.

The fret file is the vanilla flavoured one not the diamond file......the latter will be added to the tool arsenal with the next Stewmac order.

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by Allen » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:31 pm

I can't see you going too wrong there Martin.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:59 pm

Thanks guys!
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by J.F. Custom » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:41 pm

kiwigeo wrote:Thanks for all the info Jeremy.

Note I stole the headstock shape from your maple tenor.....hope you don't mind. I'm also going to nick the bridge design off the same instrument...

Cheers Martin
:shock: Geeez Martin, taking liberties aren't you? :roll: :wink:

I was in fact, going to mention how specifically familiar that headstock was... But, in the interest of keeping the peace you know 8) Besides, much as I did design it myself, who am I to suggest no such design exists elsewhere? So I'll take it as a compliment then; I'm very fond of it, evidently you like it too. :D Here's another I did in the same style -
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The bridge on mine is simply a mini classical style bridge. Much as they are fiddly to make at such a size, I really feel they look classy/quality/classic without being too over the top or "trying" to be different. Besides aesthetics though, they are also very functional - able to be crafted very light in weight; about 7-8gm's from memory. Some unfinished Rosewood bridges and an oil coated Ziricote -
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by ProfChris » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:31 am

Martin,

Yes, I think 1mm +3.2 mm saddle should put you in the zone.

Looking forward to hearing how this sounds.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:47 am

Thanks Chris
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:01 pm

Getting there....got the neck shaped today and couldn't resist test fitting the Waverley tuners.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by needsmorecowbel » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:41 pm

It's so confusing looking at pictures of Ukes because they always look so big. Then you get a great picture of it next to a small picture in the paper or a hand/ arm and you go "That's better".

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by Dennis Leahy » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:00 pm

Happy belated birthday, Martin!

Your sis is getting a gorgeous uke!

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:06 pm

Thanks Dennis......

Yeah Sis should like this cute little uke.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:10 pm

More questions for the ukeologists.

I'm designing a classical style bridge for my uke. String height off top at saddle position is 11.0m (this is allowing for 2.5mm action at 12th fret). I plan to make the bridge a tad over 7mm thick which will leave just over 3mm of saddle protruding above top of bridge. Saddle slot will be 3-4mm depth. Bridge will be 25mm front to back. Width of bridge will be sufficient to accomodate string spread plus 15mm wings either side.

The above dimensions allow for about 4square inches of gluing surface which according to David Hurd is sufficient for a tenor uke.

Any comments on above would be appreciated.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by Allen » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:14 pm

With a tie bridge mine are 100mm wide and 22mm deep. String spacing at either 42mm or 45mm depending on buyers preference.

Your specs are certainly within the norm Martin.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:08 pm

Thanks Allen!
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by J.F. Custom » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:41 pm

Hi Martin.

I answered a PM of yours but for the benefit of a broader audience who may be reading and interested...

My dimensions for the classical style Tenor bridges pictured above, come in (by happenstance) at the same size Allen mentioned - approx. 22mm by 100mm.

David Hurd suggests a 2.5" square gluing area on a bridge is required for a Tenor, calculated by string tension and extrapolated using the classical guitar design as a reference. However, he suggests he has had success in his several hundred instruments using a 4" square gluing area in his design. The dimensions I (and Allen) have provided give about about 3.5" square.

Quoting David Hurd -

"...the smallest ukuleles shouldn't have miniature classical bridge shapes because all of the area is used as a stiffener as well as glue area. "Wings" on a soprano are probably extraneous, adding excess stiffness to the top."

"My own tenor bridges have about 4 in2 of area and that middle range value has worked well for me for several hundred instruments."

"Tenors and baritones could be either 1" depth with small "wings" or 7/8" with slightly larger "wings"."


Anyway, hopefully you are not being led too far astray if you land somewhere between our advice and that of David!

Cheers Martin.

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:20 pm

Today spent working up the bridge. The wings could probably be a bit wider but I'll live with what Ive ended up with.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:09 pm

More delays at work so more progress on the uke. After tossing up between FP and a truoil finish I went for FP....mainly because it's what Im familiar with. After brushing on two seal coats of shellac (1.5lb cut) the wood looked slightly porey so I did a light pore filling session with pumice on the Tiger Myrtle and the mahogany neck. Pictures were taken after 2 bodying sessions on back and sides. Shellac is LMI super blonde and oil I'm using is walnut oil.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by auscab » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:39 pm

Nice one Martin. Your sister will be happy with that.
Do you know if Walnut oil goes off after a while ?
I was speaking to a client about it ,she said she had an old bottle of it that I can have.

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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:49 pm

auscab wrote:Nice one Martin. Your sister will be happy with that.
Do you know if Walnut oil goes off after a while ?
I was speaking to a client about it ,she said she had an old bottle of it that I can have.
Rob,

The walnut oil I use has a use by date on the bottle...usually about 12 months from date of bottling. Ive got a bottle thats 2 years old and its starting to smell like its a bit off. The stuff Im using on the uke was bought 3 weeks ago.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by Craig » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:39 pm

That's a beautiful looking little Uke there Martin. Steph is going to be thrilled.

auscab wrote: Do you know if Walnut oil goes off after a while ?
I was speaking to a client about it ,she said she had an old bottle of it that I can have.
Rob, Check the oil , many contain additives.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:50 pm

Another dragging project but at last theres light at the end of the tunnel. French polishing is finished and today I got the bridge on and nut and saddle roughed up. Tomorrow the instrument should be singing.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:25 pm

First friggin' instrument Ive finished in a while. I started this one on Jan 22nd this year...my birthday.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:28 pm

Finished...see gallery for pics.
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by simso » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:36 pm

I like the headstock shape, very nice
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Re: Steph's Tiger Tenor Uke

Post by kiwigeo » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:25 pm

simso wrote:I like the headstock shape, very nice
Stolen from Jeremy F.... ditto for the bridge.
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