red pine

mlp · Post by **mlp** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:41 am

hi there, just a question on alternative soundboard timber. ive come accross some fairly wide , quarter sawn red pine, very old with nice tight grain. rings like a bell when tapped and its very light. has anyone had any experience with this as a soundboard. thanks
marcus

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:57 pm

You in Australia Marcus? I've never heard of red pine before. Is it pinus sp. or is red pine a generic name. We need more info
Cheers
Dom

mlp · Post by **mlp** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:49 pm

thanks for the reply dom. im in victoria, found this stuff in a wrecking yard and dont have the botanical name for it ! its in a wide skirting board form. looks a bit western red cederish but more red than brownish with no knots. the guy there called it red pine ? i think i will just buy it and try it out. cheers -marcus

graham mcdonald · Post by **graham mcdonald** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:44 pm

Could well be redwood (sequoia). There was a lot of that imported beginning of last century for just such uses. I have found useable bits as the bottom of drawers. Makes very usable soundboard material at maybe 20% thicker than you would use a piece of sitka.

cheers

graham

Trevor Gore · Post by **Trevor Gore** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:03 pm

Could be Oregon pine. Plenty of that came in, too. If it's really brittle, likely sequoia; if tougher with a stronger, pine-like aroma, likely Oregon. Either way, you'd want it to be pretty well quarter sawn, or at least sufficient width on the quarter to make a multiple-piece top. If it rings really well and is low density, more likely sequoia, but could still be very old, very dry Oregon.

Don't worry about using unconventional woods....

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auscab · Post by **auscab** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:05 am

I think this is a Redwood.

Just a few tops in that one !! eh-hem

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:34 am

And this was the day that the guy up on the ladder invented the chain saw

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:44 pm

Here's my favourite redwood pic...look at the team of Clydesdale horses in the background...

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Cheers

Kim

DarwinStrings · Post by **DarwinStrings** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:14 pm

I wonder how my partner would feel If I put one of those in the driveway.

Jim

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:41 pm

DarwinStrings wrote:I wonder how my partner would feel If I put one of those in the driveway.

Jim

Errrm..what partner would that be Jim???

jeffhigh · Post by **jeffhigh** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:02 pm

I still have fond memories of a day in 1978 when I visited what was then considered to be the worlds tallest tree in northern California, a seqouia.
A chance meeting with a couple of guys at a lookout over the Kamath river who were going there, 7 Miles walk in through some amazing greoves of trees and then the Giants, protected by a ranger who camped there to protect them from vandalism.
Nothing quite like the sight and smell of a redwood forest.

Dominic · Post by **Dominic** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:51 pm

Still, Tasmania and WA had the tallest trees recorded and they beat the tallest redwood. The Tassy tree was a blue gum and it was over 110m once they had cut it down

In WA the tree, a karri, lost its top in a storm or something like that. The pic Kim put up is bigger girth than what used to grow in SW WA but there were big trees, 2/3 to 3/4 of that pic. And this is hard tough wood, makes the redwood cutters look like logging girly men by comparison. Then they had to get these massive incredibly heavy logs to rail sidings all through the forest. Bloody hard work. Margaret River used to have 3 times as many people living there during the 1920, we cut down all the forest and sent it our via Hamlin Bay to build London.

I am reminded of a Spike Milligan poem called goliath

They cut down 100 foot trees to make chairs
I am 6.1"
When I sit in a chair I am only 4.8"
Did they really cut down a 100 foot tree to make me look shorter?

Cheers
Dom

Bruce McC · Post by **Bruce McC** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:04 pm

This is a great post

it started out on red pine moved onto a team of clydesdales
and is now into poetry by Spike Milligan, where is it going next

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:17 pm

Only one place it can go dude...

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Cheers

Kim

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:34 pm

afshar wrote:This is a great post it started out on red pine moved onto a team of clydesdales
and is now into poetry by Spike Milligan, where is it going next

One of my other great passions..logging locomotives. Lets start with a Climax:

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:38 pm

Kim wrote:Only one place it can go dude...

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Cheers

Kim

Why should the girls have all the fun?

kiwigeo · Post by **kiwigeo** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:39 pm

Apologies for the thread hijack Marcus

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:08 pm

I always wondered how Americans got their beer to taste so bad...now we know... moob milk!!!

Sorry for the hijack but it 'is' Friday.

jeffhigh · Post by **jeffhigh** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:18 pm

Please guys, no obcenity here, no need to use foul language like A......rican B..r.

christian · Post by **christian** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:32 pm

Some pretty impressive tree action, can't comment on the boobs wife reading over my shoulder....
anyway Reminds me of the old pics of our own Kauri tree loggers here in NZ
I know our Kauri are bloody old, but certainly not 110metres tall !!!!
But for Girth the legend of the Great Ghost of the Coromandel is pretty amazing.
apparently it got burnt down by accidient while the guys were clearing bush to get some other trees, I guess the wind changed !!
Had to wiki it but it was 8.54metres in diameter 26.83 metres in girth pace that out thats unreal !!!
if you ever get the chance to come to NZ and are heading up my way to the far North only to happy to show you some of these majestic trees.
Cheers,

Christian.

Kim · Post by **Kim** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:55 pm

jeffhigh wrote:Please guys, no obcenity here, no need to use foul language like A......rican B..r.

Sorry Jeff

Great looking tree Christian, if I am over that way I would love to take you up on the offer.

Cheers

Kim

christian · Post by **christian** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:11 pm

Please do Kim !! I know you guys have kauri too, have you tried it for Soundboards?
I remember a while ago some guys found the thought to be extinct Wollemi pine somewhere in Aus
it was a very old and a very big tree...looked so similar to a Kauri ?

Cheers,

Christian.

DarwinStrings · Post by **DarwinStrings** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:44 pm

Kim wrote:Only one place it can go dude...

I wonder how my partner would feel If I put one of those in the driveway.

Jim

Nick Payne · Post by **Nick Payne** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:04 am

Here's a Euc. Jacksonii that we came across when cycling through South-West Western Australia about 25 years ago. This tree was still alive in spite of having been hollowed out by multiple fires over the centuries. I did hear that it came down in a storm a few years later. On the same trip I climbed a Karri near Pemberton that had had the top lopped and a fire observation cabin perched on top. The cabin was about 60m off the ground and the trunk was still about 1m diameter at that point.

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