Pick ups in Acoustics

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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by kiwigeo » Tue May 03, 2011 7:00 am

Nick wrote:
seeaxe wrote:Thanks Nick - can you tell me where you got your K and Ks from? NZ or offshore?

Cheers
I get mine direct from the manufacturer Richard, I don't think there is an agent in NZ but if there was I'm only guessing but would say it would still be cheaper direct.
Whoops,:oops: just did a dealer search on their site & it's kicked back quite a number of New Zealand outlets although they're all in the North Island :evil:
http://www.kksound.com/cgi-bin/csvsearc ... ew+Zealand Take your pick Richard.
This guy is good....Ive bought most of mine off him.

http://stores.ebay.com.au/sonicwavefactory
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Post by vandenboom » Tue May 03, 2011 7:18 am

kiwigeo wrote:This guy is good....Ive bought most of mine off him.

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...me too. Excellent service on two occasions I have dealt with him. Frank

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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by What Democracy? » Thu May 19, 2011 2:05 am

Hi to all,
My name is Ben. Newbie here. I am building my first acoustic and hope to become a productive and active member of the forum.
I will get onto my guitar build in the appropriate forum soon.
Thought I would chime in here as I have been recently doing some work with a bloke in the US, goes by the name Teddy Randazzo.
He used to work for Arnie Lazurus at FRAP (Flat Response Acoustic Pickup). The FRAP was a piezo pickup developed in 1969 and used with great success by Neil Young and the late great Michael Hedges on many recordings. Whilst the FRAP is now gone, many people have tried to produce a relatively cheap piezo sensor pickup to fill the whole left by this popular transducer, with varying degress of success. I hear Trance Audio do a good system in the Amulet 3D lens transducer system, but this one can be very expensive and problematic to install in "The sweet spot" without specialist assistance from Garry Hull at Trance, or Neil Young's guitar tech Larry Cragg at your immediate disposal.

Enter "The Dazzo": http://www.dazzopickups.com/www.thedazz ... lcome.html
Disclosure! Whilst I am sounding like an ad here, I have 1 Dazzo and was blown away when compared to other piezo contact pickups.
On my first post I would hate people to think that I am a "spammer", this is not the case, I believe in this pickup - it speaks for itself.
I am not being paid for my opinion, I was sent a Dazzo for free to trial. In return I have provided a recording of an original song that appears on the Dazzo site. "After the fire" as named by Michael Hedges good friend, Randy Lutge.
To be fair, this recording does not do the pickup justice, it was experimental, but ended up posted on the site anyway.
I used 1 Dazzo (they should be used in pairs) cellotaped to the outside of my 1972 Maton CW80/6 (totally incorrect install, I know) together with the Bill Lawrence magnetic pickup. I blended the two signals into 2 mic channels of a cheap mixing desk and straight off into my PC for recording. My song on the site is the result of this haphazard arrangement...
Check out the events page on the Dazzo site for an independent guitar magazine review on the pickup.

Teddy has come up with a remarkable piezo sensor here, I have blended it with my 1970s Bill Lawrence "Silencer" magnetic Humbucker with great success. Michael Hedges used to use one FRAP glued under the treble side of his bridge in his D-28, blended with a magnetic "Silencer" and later a "Sunrise" magnetic pickup. A much sought after tone, but largely misunderstood signal path.
Before he was tragically killed in a car accident in 1997, Michael Hedges was working with Teddy and the remains of FRAP to resurrect the FRAP tone he and others so dearly loved. Teddy has taken all his skill, innovation and own knowledge to completely re-invent a design approach to piezo pickup construction. A pickup that you can "aim" at the soundboard, you really can dial this thing in by ear at home with great success.

Teddy recommends using a pre-amp with 10 Megaohm input, L.R. Baggs for instance.
I have not tried this yet. They are available in several different Bass responses and cost US$75 each, hard to beat.
Teddy is always willing to guide anyone through the install process with pictures, gluing tips and advice on the self-install.
A crazy man! With an excellent pickup.

Check it out!

Cheers, Ben.

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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by woodrat » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:05 pm

Hi Everyone, I was just wondering if anybody has had anything to do with the pickups and preamps from Finnish company B Band? I have seen them in guitars in stores but they have quite a wide retrofittable range as well. They have an undersaddle transducer and what they call an AST which i think stands for Acoustic Soundboard Trandsucer and there is a setup that you can have to blend the two together to manipulate the tone.

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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:13 pm

woodrat wrote:Hi Everyone, I was just wondering if anybody has had anything to do with the pickups and preamps from Finnish company B Band? I have seen them in guitars in stores but they have quite a wide retrofittable range as well. They have an undersaddle transducer and what they call an AST which i think stands for Acoustic Soundboard Trandsucer and there is a setup that you can have to blend the two together to manipulate the tone.

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I was once recommended these pickups by Dave Freeman...I think he uses them a bit. Cant speak from my experience..Ive always stuck with the K and K's.
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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by Kim » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:07 pm

If I recall correctly......(I am over 50 so place what confidence in that opening you feel is appropriate) B-Band make Maton Guitars A5 series acoustic pickups and they are good performers if somewhat on the bright side.

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Re: Pick ups in Acoustics

Post by lacrombie » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:35 pm

I have been playing acoustic guitar for 35 years and have tried several systems. The best I have come across is the Highlander ip2 in the bridge combined/blended with the sunrise sound hole pickup. The Highlander has a high quality pre amp with a stereo output jack which allows you to split the signal from the pickups and send them to separate channels on your amp/mixer. This is a high end solution but gives you a great sound and versatility.

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