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Interesting "Project"

Post by Nick » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:03 pm

Wasn't to sure whether to put this in the gallery or here but as it isn't 'officially' completed then I'll shove it in here along with some of the build pics.
I don't know if anybody remembers back 12 months ago I posted some pics of a Slingerland "Bandolin" or is that "Manjolin"?Image that the customer wanted to see if I could fit a guitar neck to. The original was in pretty bad state and the neck had pulled.
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After pulling the thing apart I decided it would be a kind of fun project to do up but the customer wasn't in any rush & wanted to hear if the 'experiment' worked before committing the funds to giving it a full spruce up.
Anyway finally I've gotten around to doing the job & it's been one of those jobs that has been a fun fill in type job. I had an old Fender Squier that I'd bought for 50 bucks for spares yonks ago, the neck kindly donated it's services for this project :D.
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I laminated a few bits of scrap Maple I had in my bin onto the donor neck's heel & marked out where the hoop & head had to be notched out.
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So far piece of cake but once I started roughing out the heel shape I found a slight problem...Where I wanted to notch out there was this piece of metal in the way :oops:.
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I had to hog out most of the notch with a chisel then dig in around the truss rod anchor so I could extract it. I undid the bullet nut at the other end & proceeded to pull the truss rod out from the heel end. (Squier's bullet nut is bigger than the adjusting hole in the headstock so it can't simply be taken out! It's obviously sitting in a bigger pocket that's covered when the fingerboard's put on...grrrr).
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Anyway once I'd removed it I cut it shorter at the bullet nut end then put it back into the neck & carried on shaping the notch. I had to drill a hole in the heel end for the original "dowel stick".
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I decided because the neck was longer & may exert more pull on things that I'd cross drill the tenon on the dowel just to be "on the safe side", shaped the heel then glued an Ebony cap on the heel to cover my cross dowel.
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I then finished fitting the neck & making sure it's centreline pointed somewhere near the middle of the head.
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Anyway it looked the part so I made a wider saddle & a temporary tailpiece for the wider string spacing so he could at least listen to it play & decide if he wants to spend the $ on it. I haven't put finish on the neck yet but I must say it's come out not too bad, definitely sounds "banjoey" but the bass tones are a little thin on the ground! Having the round body & long neck I must say it's hard getting used to holding it but it's actually a hoot to play & of course there's no resting your pinky on the head as it damps it! Of course the first tune from it's strings was duelling banjo's! :lol: :lol:
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The brown marks on the Vellum/head is staining from the old saddle.
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Hopefully the customer goes for a full refurb as the head on this one has a split so I couldn't tension it right up to where I suspect they usually sit.
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Post by Luke » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:43 pm

:cl :cl :cl Great work there Nick this is the sort of instrument that i can love.
have you tried open tuning and some slide work?
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Post by Kim » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:35 pm

Very cool Nick, the start neck brings much mojo to da banjo me thinks :D 8)

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Post by DarwinStrings » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:52 pm

:lol: That is great, a cheap Fender with bucked teeth and a over friendly sister.

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Post by Nick » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:23 pm

DarwinStrings wrote::lol: That is great, a cheap Fender with bucked teeth and a over friendly sister.

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Post by Allen » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:55 pm

DarwinStrings wrote::lol: That is great, a cheap Fender with bucked teeth and a over friendly sister.

Jim
That's got to be the all time best "marketing line" I've ever heard Jim. Well done indeed. We'll be seeing that showing up on Nick's website before weeks end. :D
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Post by penndan » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:27 am

I've done a couple of banjos using Fender style necks for customers. This is the latest one. A 5 string with the fifth string going all the way to the peg head. The Fender neck makes for a little wider than standard for a 5 string, but good for larger hands.
The knob sticking out where the fifth string tuner usually goes is part of a sliding capo for the fifth string. No dowel stick, bolt on neck with one coordinator rod.
Not my personal choice for a banjo neck , but the customer is always right (unless they aren't). Anything for a buck!
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Post by Puff » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:42 am

Might a slightly shorter scale length with the bridge moved north again, to about its original position, be an option to up the bass response?

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Post by Nick » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:52 pm

Puff wrote:Might a slightly shorter scale length with the bridge moved north again, to about its original position, be an option to up the bass response?
It would, but the customer didn't know if he really wanted to spend the bickies on what he thought was (is?) a dunger & I had this neck laying around from my donor Squier so offered it as a cheaper option to modify it rather than build a shorter scale neck for him. It's also an older 10 3/4" diameter head & pot, a newer 11" would also bring the saddle inboard a bit more & fatten the bass up. I could have also not notched into the neck quite so deeply so that would have shifted the saddle inboard also. It's really nowhere near the tension it should be due to the tear in the top( torn along the bearing edge) so who knows how that would alter the sound (but wouldn't 'enhance' bass response I suspect!). Also loading the strings from the underside of the tailpiece may help by increasing the saddle break over angle.
Apart from the tear, the rest are those sort of things you learn after doing a job for the first time. :oops:
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Post by Puff » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:00 pm

New fretboard, new skin and I reckon a bloody good instrument. The guts of it are there, you have the craft, only needs the "let's do it".
We're sort of writing this at the same time so I'll butt out for a bit.

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Post by simso » Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:31 am

Super cool
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