Old French Bass full Restoration

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Stephen Kinnaird » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:05 pm

Lillian wrote:Well I'll be... Matthew, you are human. I always wondered if you weren't 2 foot tall with pointy ears.

Lets face it, the work you are doing is magical.

Thanks for sharing.
I dunno, Lillian, perhaps he IS 2 feet tall.
Maybe that's a viola he's been working on all this time?

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:09 pm

Actually Lillian that is my avatar there in the workshop.

In real life I look like this ... no bull.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Lillian » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:13 pm

Who knew cape buffalo were so intelligent and gifted?

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by rocket » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:14 pm

I don't know if you are old school or not Mathew but you are definitely the real deal, love your work. Cheers Rod.
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by kiwigeo » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:14 pm

The Bassmeister at work!! Nice work Matthew. Glad to see that arsewipe spruce proved of some use...its useless for making guitars out of.
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Localele » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:15 pm

:oops:
Cheers from Micheal.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:18 pm

I have no idea what "old school" is, so maybe that's not me! But there again, to my kids I'm an old fart, so maybe I am!

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Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:22 pm

Remember this great big soundpost crack?

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I glued it up well, but if this isn't reinforced properly the glued-up crack will just bust again when the pressure's on. So, working from the back, I make an oval patch from spruce and trace around it, then start hogging out a bit of a hole.

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Mustn't get carried away ...

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I like this next pic, because it shows up the depth - around 2-3mm - of the darkening of the wood due to age! Someone who has done this on many more basses that I have could probably date the thing looking at the colour alone! You can see the original crack entering at the left and a slightly darker area where it is glued. I think the right depth and shape of the curved bed is important.

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Next step is to spot glue some guides for the patch to make sure it always goes back exactly in the same spot. There a many ways to do this, and this is the way i'm doing it this time! The grain of the patch is slightly offset from the grain in the top.

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Now the glue is drying, I have to do some work work. Stay tuned.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by DarwinStrings » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:23 pm

Nice patch Matthew, so that is what you mob use those tiny little planes for.

Oh and "old school" is a "fingerflip", "new school" is a "heelflip to blunt".

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:24 pm

Hey its not finished yet! And I'm still no clearer whether i'm an old school or not. Depends on your perspective I suppose. I only have grey hair in my beard, but I need reading glasses now.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by rocket » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:25 pm

In an attempt to heap praise on the luthier in question i used the term "old school", To quote the concise Macquarie dictionary,[old school,advocates of long established policies and practices], or in other words, and i suspect in Mathews case, one who has been taught old and proven skills and techniques, and still uses these even in this day of mechanised tooling. Still love your work Mathew!! Cheers Rod :D
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Nick » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:26 pm

matthew wrote:I only have grey hair in my beard, but I need reading glasses now.
OLD SCHOOL! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by kiwigeo » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:34 pm

matthew wrote:Actually Lillian that is my avatar there in the workshop.

In real life I look like this ... no bull.

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I beg to differ......

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Kim » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:35 pm

Obviously playing in key of "Bee" ...quick Robin, to the bat bass.. 8)

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Insomnomaniac » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:37 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

What has been seen can never be unseen...

KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Lillian » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:38 pm

I want to know what the leopard trimmed zipper is hiding.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:42 pm

No you don't ...

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Post by Insomnomaniac » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:43 pm

Lillian wrote:I want to know what the leopard trimmed zipper is hiding.
Ha ha - a bee with a fly...
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by P Bill » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:45 pm

Great work Matthew

What is the bass bar like after all this time ? You're not an old fart till your ears have enough hair so you start to look like a kola.
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by P Bill » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:46 pm

The bear not the drink
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:48 pm

A view of the plate edges for youse.

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I have not worked on shaping the edges yet. And i'm going to have to sweat over the purfling in the corners :-/

The soundpost inlay patch is shaping up well. I'll finish it off and glue it in tonight after the gig.

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The bassbar is intact, well glued and solid. It is placed exactly parallel with the grain of the top, which is usually a no-no. I haven't yet decided whether to replace it or leave it.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by Lillian » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:50 pm

matthew wrote:No you don't ...
:shock:

Okay.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by reconstructor » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:53 pm

Reply by "Darryl Young"

Matthew, I'm really enjoying reading how you address these issues. I've never had a chance to see a skilled repairman work so this is the next best thing.

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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by rocket » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:58 pm

Darryl, He's "OLD SCHOOL" So think yourself lucky to observe the mans skills,, :D :D :D
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Re: Old French Bass full Restoration

Post by matthew » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:59 pm

rocket wrote:Darryl, He's "OLD SCHOOL"
Ahah ... you spotted the chalk!

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