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Chequer Board Binding

Post by seeaxe » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:03 pm

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A friend of mine wants to build a guitar and would like to use the chequerboard binding seen on the attached image.

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My question is:

Does anyone know where I might be able to find/purchase such a binding?

I welcome (relevant!) suggestions

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by liam_fnq » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:04 pm

I believe Gurian will make it up for you. Gotta buy a shed load though.
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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by liam_fnq » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:05 pm

liam_fnq wrote:
I believe Gurian will make it up for you. Gotta buy a shed load though.

If you only want enough for one guitar you could make your own. I couldn't think of a much easier pattern. Still a it of work though.
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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by Puff » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:05 pm

Sorry no and a point for your friend to ponder - such a binding would broadcast a fraction of asymetry in body shape loudly at the neck joint or tail graft. Embarassed

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by seeaxe » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:06 pm

Thanks Liam, I had a look there and anything is possible. I also found a llink to someone who shows how to make their own rope binding. I could make it at a pinch.

Good point puff, I'll remember to be careful but as this will be a Tele, I think I will get away with a bit of asymettry.

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by J.F. Custom » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:06 pm

Hi Richard.

Try Veneer Inlay Australia (.com.au) they have a reasonably wide range of timber banding available.

Specifically here :

http://www.veneerinlayaustralia.com.au/ ... tml&Rec=12

Seems they have something along the lines you want but whether it fits the bill exactly is up to you, or your mate.
That is a link to page one and I believe there are 9 or more pages to go through.

Hope it helps.

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by graham mcdonald » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:07 pm

That kind of checkerboard binding will work in a straight line, as used on those banjos, but will be much harder to bend in a flat plane as you will have to do to get it around the shape of a guitar. Rope binding with the sections at an angle will be easier to use and bend and will make it easier to hide the gaps. The pic below is the edge of a hardanger style fiddle I made earlier this year. The edging is tiny blocks of ebony and tulip satinwood all glued in place separately, and with lots of them trimmed to fit around the curves. It is quite a relaxing thing to do, with a pot of hot glue and a sharp knife.

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by P Bill » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:07 pm

Lovely fiddle Graham .Hardangers have always intrigued me.Would love to play one . Something very slow I would guess.
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Post by Nick » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:08 pm

Shocked Sympathetic strings? You've just opened my eye's to another new instrument Graham! I've seen that system on a guitar style instrument but never a fiddle, Google here I come. Smile

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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by Allen » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:09 pm

Great looking fiddle Graham, but you got me confused when you said a pot of glue. I was expecting a pot of beer. Laughing
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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by matthew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:10 pm

Lovely hardanger Graham. I've been tempted to do an edging like that on a double bass but its a shitload of relaxing beer and a pot of sharp knives. (I've also been toying with the idea of sympathetic strings in a bass ... it'll never happen)

how do you cut the pieces? Do you make two perimeter strips and cut them up like doing marquetry? Or do you make them one by one by slicing them off a stick ... or ...?

I was thinking of slicing old ebony piano keys across as they're sort of keystone shaped in cross section. And using the ivories for the white bits.
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Re: Chequer Board Binding

Post by seeaxe » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:10 pm

Thanks Jeremy, thats a great link and some very nice products.
Not sure what we will end up with but those looked great.

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Post by graham mcdonald » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:11 pm

I thought I had replied to Matthew's question but I didn't.

Pieces of the contrasting woods are sanded down to a little over 1mm thick and 2mm wide strips are cut with a knife along the grain. I made up a simple jig that holds those strips and allows you to cut off a 2mm piece off the end of a strip with a razor saw. They will need a some sanding where they have been sawn, I have found. Then it just a matter of starting in each corner and adding little alternating blocks trimmed a little to fit as they go around the curves. A blob of hot glue and rubbing the block into place is all that is needed. For a fiddle I think you will need about 140 blocks of each colour.

There is a strip of black purfling on the inside to provide a solid line to define the edging. That can be bought as a separate piece or split off from a BW or a BWB purfling strip. Ironing a laminated purfling with the steam on makes it simple to separate the layers.

Making that tailpiece was a lot harder than doing the purfling. It tok three attempts out of some gorgeous ring gidgee until I got it right.

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