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Post by Shane Woonton » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:32 am

Nick wrote:
Bob Connor wrote:You just need to keep the amount under $1000 otherwise you may get hit with GST.
Lucky bastards :evil: $400 in NZ & they've just started including postage into that figure as well :cry: I used RC tonewoods a fair bit but now a couple of sets & I have to consider things closely what with the increase in USPS rates, exchange rate & GST, once it's in the country it makes what was a reasonably priced set of back & sides a bloody expensive proposition for a customer choosing their wood of choice.
This is interesting. I've imported wood to NZ via post twice, once from the US and once from CA. Both time over NZ$700 excluding postage. Once from RC and once from Timeless Instruments. I wasn't charged GST either time.... was I just lucky? :? Does anyone know if this applies every time or is it just random checks?

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Post by Lillian » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:11 pm

Shane! Good to see your post. Hope things are doing better for you and yours.

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Post by Shane Neifer » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:11 pm

Thanks for the warm welcome back everyone. It feels good to be back at it. And I have a long backlog but chipping away at it as I have been for the last few weeks feels pretty good!

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Post by Nick » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:24 pm

Shane Neifer wrote:I have a long backlog
Sounds like you'll need it to fill all your orders Shane :lol: Welcome back :D
Shane Woonten wrote: This is interesting. I've imported wood to NZ via post twice, once from the US and once from CA. Both time over NZ$700 excluding postage. Once from RC and once from Timeless Instruments. I wasn't charged GST either time.... was I just lucky? :? Does anyone know if this applies every time or is it just random checks?
How long ago was this Shane? They've really clamped down on this, for me at least! In the last 18 months, I got pinged for a package from RC that came to $405 the last time! Miserable bastards couldn't even look the other way for five bucks! Maybe it's just me :cry: I'll get my next lot shipped to you and you can pass them on :wink: :lol:
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Post by tim mullin » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:27 pm

Shane Woonton wrote: I've imported wood to NZ via post twice, once from the US and once from CA. Both time over NZ$700 excluding postage. Once from RC and once from Timeless Instruments. I wasn't charged GST either time.... was I just lucky? :? Does anyone know if this applies every time or is it just random checks?
At times it certainly seems random, but when I once suggested this to a Customs Official, he told me that if I'd ever seen the mayhem that is the NZ Post international mail centre, I would understand that things just get out of hand for their small staff. They don't like things backing up, so they collect what they can physically process, and let most other things go through. Technically, a personal importation whose value and duty (if any) would attract GST of at least $60 should generate a request for clearance, including payment of a brokerage fee and MAF inspection fee (unless the trigger has changed in the last few months). A commercial importation technically requires clearance, regardless of value, and that must be done by a commercial broker, along with their fees. Quite often you'll get lucky, but sooner or later you'll get stung.

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Post by tim mullin » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 am

Tim Mullin wrote: Technically, a personal importation whose value and duty (if any) would attract GST of at least $60 should generate a request for clearance, including payment of a brokerage fee and MAF inspection fee (unless the trigger has changed in the last few months).
Unfortunately for us in kiwi-land, the trigger HAS changed. The GST trigger now considers GST on the freight as well! While we still have many things slip through international post without charges, the courier companies are quite zealous in applying the letter of the law, and collecting their clearance agent fees. (Yes, I got dinged this morning by UPS for a shipment that I had thought would be under the threshold).

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Post by Nick » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:16 am

Tim Mullin wrote:Unfortunately for us in kiwi-land, the trigger HAS changed. The GST trigger now considers GST on the freight as well! While we still have many things slip through international post without charges, the courier companies are quite zealous in applying the letter of the law, and collecting their clearance agent fees. (Yes, I got dinged this morning by UPS for a shipment that I had thought would be under the threshold).
Like I say Tim, I got pinged on a DHL shipment for being $405 (which included shipping, I think the goods themselves were about 360 or something), it's getting so you have to think twice because if you split the shipment into two 'lesser' amounts, you are then stung with two lots of shipping costs. I think this is a result of the retail sector pressuring gubmint agencies to make any offshore purchase incur GST , they don't like the fact that people are using the internet to shop offshore & buy the goods at a much cheaper price (I remember one case of a guy buying a motorcycle helmet from the States & even after paying shipping & the GST on it, it was still only half the price of what the retailers were wanting locally).
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Re: SpruceTonewood.com

Post by Kim » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:43 pm

Nick wrote:I got pinged on a DHL shipment for being $405 (which included shipping, I think the goods themselves were about 360 or something), it's getting so you have to think twice because if you split the shipment into two 'lesser' amounts, you are then stung with two lots of shipping costs. I think this is a result of the retail sector pressuring gubmint agencies to make any offshore purchase incur GST , they don't like the fact that people are using the internet to shop offshore & buy the goods at a much cheaper price (I remember one case of a guy buying a motorcycle helmet from the States & even after paying shipping & the GST on it, it was still only half the price of what the retailers were wanting locally).
Back when the AU duty threshold was around $200, it seemed both UPS and FedEx would bump shipping quotes so the total consignment would exceed that total. It did not seem to matter how much the goods actually cost, if the company you were buying them from were contracted to those carriers, up she goes...They would then bring the consignment to the attention of customs with the net effect being that you would not get your goods delivered as paid for, rather you would get a card in your letter box telling you to drive to the airport and pick it up..and bring your wallet cause you would now need to pay for a temporary importation license, app $30, a customs consignment inspection fee, applicable duty, AND an clearance agent fee to the carrier for acting on your behalf as per consignment contract.....and THEN... GST applied to the lot, to include the original purchase cost + freight + insurance... Oh and did I mention the YOU would have to pickup rather than them delivering to your door as per original understanding with the vendor...

Brutally greedy bastards would do that to you just so they could generate a clearance agent fee where there should not have been one and avoid the cost of carrying out the local delivery you already paid for. There was nothing you could do about it either, you would pay the ransom or they would not release your consignment simple as that...Its probably the dregs of having to deal with angry international customers' emails and phone calls that were generated by a situation beyond their control that still has many USA companies refusing to shipping to Australia even though much has now changed. The weird thing was if you had the very same consignment sent via USPS, who has an exchange of delivery service agreement in place with Australia Post, your goods would be at your door in less overall time, with no duty or fees attached, and for half the freight cost. That's because both still have government ownership umbilicals attached and therefore need to play fair. What what happens if either are ever fully privatized. The unfair scalping of people at every opportunity these entities currently condemn as ruthless and unethical behavior of their competitors would soon become the rewarded expectation....its just the way of us when we only recognize the bottom line.

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Re: SpruceTonewood.com

Post by Nick » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:54 am

When I import tonewood & have it sent to work (where I know there will always be somebody in the stores to sign for the package) I quite often get a letter from Ag & Fish asking for an inspection fee ($25) before they'll release the shipment, this usually then involes me having to contact them & explain it's only being delivered to a business address & is infact for private use. They then waive the fee & release the wood, it's weird though because I only seem to get these letters every few shipments, they don't seem to be consistant with it :? .
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