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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by schrammguitars » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:22 am

Is this lute built using the David Van Edwards cd-rom course?
http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:43 pm

Yes David. There is also input from Lundberg's classic book as well (eg half bindings on the top).
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Dominic » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:50 pm

So which one on that site is the same as your model Martin?
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:58 pm

Dominic wrote:So which one on that site is the same as your model Martin?
Mine is a Renaissance 7 course instrument after George Gerl (c1560):

http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/renlute.htm
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Dominic » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:39 pm

That's going to be a pretty cool instrument Martin. Can you play one? Have you got a little song worked out to give it a burl when its done? Or do you know someone who plays?
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:50 pm

Dominic wrote:That's going to be a pretty cool instrument Martin. Can you play one? Have you got a little song worked out to give it a burl when its done? Or do you know someone who plays?
No I cant currently play a lute but that's about to change.
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Nick » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:16 am

kiwigeo wrote:
Dominic wrote:That's going to be a pretty cool instrument Martin. Can you play one? Have you got a little song worked out to give it a burl when its done? Or do you know someone who plays?
No I cant currently play a lute but that's about to change.
Martin's booked in for the next intake on the "merry minstreling" course at the Adelaide Tafe Dominic, got the tights and puffy jacket already. :wink: .
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Allen » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:55 am

He's going to have to fashion some sort of Cod piece. But that's going to look a little odd on the next ride on the bike. :shock:
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by duh Padma » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:59 am

Ummm...ok so me really impressed with the rosette.
Now were are the pics of the bowl back being built?
Hmmm!...

Me wanna see pics of the back being done did with commentary on how to.

Please.


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Post by Nick » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:27 am

duh Padma wrote:Ummm...ok so me really impressed with the rosette.
Now were are the pics of the bowl back being built?
Hmmm!...

Me wanna see pics of the back being done did with commentary on how to.

Please.


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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:23 pm

Allen wrote:He's going to have to fashion some sort of Cod piece. But that's going to look a little odd on the next ride on the bike. :shock:
You and Nick can pull ya heads in!!! :D
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Kim » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:49 pm

Allen wrote:He's going to have to fashion some sort of Cod piece. But that's going to look a little odd on the next ride on the bike. :shock:

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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:47 pm

Kim....pull both ya heads in :mrgreen:

What's left of your house and workshop after that cyclone??
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Post by matthew » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:23 pm

chaps this is the PUBLIC forum :lol: ... wait till the mods hear about it.

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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:32 pm

J.F. Custom wrote: As a side, you may be interested in this. I was given this guys (Joseph Tawardos) new CD for christmas. Jazz meets the Middle East?? I know it is an Oud, not a lute but still... Pretty impressive skills from this young aussie, not to mention his brother the percussionist. As are the instruments of the luthier that built his Oud too - Faruk Turunz - http://www.oudmaster.com/. Interestingly, he utilizes nomex double tops on some of his Ouds.


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This is an amazing collection of musicians.....my favourite bassist John Patitucci and my favourite percussionist Jack de Johnette. The Ozzie Oud player is doing extremely well mixing with such Jazz Royalty.
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:25 pm

The last few days have been spent working on the bridge. A lute bridge is indeed a weird kettle of fish...the wood is plum and there's not much to it.
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:31 pm

Found my 1.0mm drill bit this morning and got the string holes drilled. A dicey procedure where the holes are drilled from both sides of the bridge and then the drill is inserted and manually wiggled around to make the holes met up in the middle. Some makers drill the holes while the bridge is still in blank form and this method has its merits. Anyway I got lucky and the holes ended up all on target.
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by J.F. Custom » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:45 pm

Looks good Martin, not to mention fun.

I may be masochistic but I really enjoy the detail work like this. 8)

As a side, Joseph Tawardos (Oud musician above) is playing nearby in the Castlemaine festival coming up. May see if I can catch the show.

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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by duh Padma » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:36 pm

A dicey procedure where the holes are drilled from both sides of the bridge and then the drill is inserted and manually wiggled around to make the holes met up in the middle.
You gotta be kiddin me, Wish me had half your tooling skills.


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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Mike Thomas » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:06 pm

That looks a bit like a Stubai chisel Martin. I expect you did a little bit of shopping at Mik's when they were still around.
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:01 pm

Mike Thomas wrote:That looks a bit like a Stubai chisel Martin. I expect you did a little bit of shopping at Mik's when they were still around.
Hi Mike,

Yes Ive got a set of Stubais that came from MIK before they cratered. Theyre my favourite bench chisels. Most of the work on the bridge was done with My Robert Sorby paring chisels..also from MIK
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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by Puff » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:24 pm

Thanks Matthew. Superb for what they are but close to gross. I trust this will moderate the distain for banjo decorations :D
Just Googled Oud Music. I'll take banjo or resophonic any day but then I prefer 'Rocky Top' to 'Soggy Top' :twisted:

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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by matthew » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:12 pm

who cares what they sound like. The bling is the thing.

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Re: Lute Progress - Test runs for cutting the rosette

Post by kiwigeo » Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:32 pm

A wet day here in Adelaide so couldn't work on the new garden shed or do a bunch of other outside jobs. So I got the lute bridge glued on. The van Edwards tute uses a go bar deck to glue the bridge on but I prefer the clamping jig out of Lundbergs book.
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