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by Trevor Gore
Thu Aug 14, 2025 8:50 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Timber fractures?
Replies: 3
Views: 187

Re: Timber fractures?

Those are typically called brash fractures and are typically caused by the wood failing in compression, usually on the compression side of a bend, so they sometimes get called compression cracks. Clearly, it weakens the wood considerably, leading to early failure when the the compression crack sees ...
by Trevor Gore
Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:28 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Building a Domed Back
Replies: 12
Views: 11960

Re: Building a Domed Back

I wonder whether metal glue, which is heat resistant, would be a suitable alternative to the Aerodux 500 you used back in the day? "Back in the day", when I was doing a lot of sailboat racing, the masts I used were made by a mob called Needlespar. They were constructed from tapered aluminium extrud...
by Trevor Gore
Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:04 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Spreadsheets
Replies: 12
Views: 51235

Re: Spreadsheets

GregHolmberg wrote:
Thu Aug 07, 2025 2:56 am
....but I'm having fun. And that's what matters, right?
Definitely! But don't forget the acoustics project! :)
by Trevor Gore
Wed Aug 06, 2025 11:11 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Spreadsheets
Replies: 12
Views: 51235

Re: Spreadsheets

Maybe Trevor can explain more about how he fits a 4DOF model to a guitar. Write an objective equation and use a multivariable optimiser. When I did this for the model in the book (including the "simple sources") , I set the optimiser running and came back 2 days later when it had finished. And that...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Aug 01, 2025 9:58 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Building a Domed Back
Replies: 12
Views: 11960

Re: Building a Domed Back

Thanks, Alan. Properly heat proof wood glues are hard to find...
by Trevor Gore
Thu Jul 31, 2025 7:00 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Building a Domed Back
Replies: 12
Views: 11960

Re: Building a Domed Back

That's a striking guitar, Alan, and welcome to the falcate club! A quick question if I may: How did you do the sides? If you glued before bending, what glue did you use? My glue of choice for that application would be Aerodux 500 (which I used for boat building in the UK in the 80's and 90's). But i...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:09 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Feathered braces v tucked braces
Replies: 6
Views: 21938

Re: Feathered braces v tucked braces

But has it survived the ultimate test of resilience.....a full on bar room fight? This one didn't survive a bar room fight. It got stood on (accidentally). The guy was heart broken. P1040666s.jpg Whilst braces were broken, they cracked along their length or split away from the top, rather than snap...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Jul 09, 2025 9:20 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Feathered braces v tucked braces
Replies: 6
Views: 21938

Re: Feathered braces v tucked braces

On the J 45 drawing #1 only the top end of the X braces are housed into the linings. The bottom ends of the X braces are feathered and not set into the linings. Is this normal on all X braced guitars? Most guitars have the bottom ends of the X braces set into the linings, which is fine if you want ...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:02 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Archtop considerations and hello
Replies: 11
Views: 16788

Re: Archtop considerations and hello

...I am considering using New Guinea rosewood for the soundboard. This would be counter to traditional wisdom due to its density, but because of its amazing tap and the different setup of an archtop I feel it could be worth the experiment. I'll be attending Trevor Gore's masterclass which could pro...
by Trevor Gore
Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:04 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Gore and Gilet's The Books - Edition 3 now available
Replies: 3
Views: 78140

Re: Gore and Gilet's The Books - Edition 3 now available

kiwigeo wrote:
Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:39 am
Trevor...when is the glue proof edition of The Books coming out?? :oops:
And what exactly were you doing to stick the pages together??

Maybe it's time to invest in Ed 3; but a warning, some of the pics are even more provocative! :shock:
by Trevor Gore
Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:11 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus
Replies: 9
Views: 8535

Re: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus

Is there an appropriate way to use dynamic testing for such material? The good news is "Yes there is!" I once came across a formula on the web which gave the resonant frequency of trapezoidal section panels. The bad news is I have never been able to find that formula since! However, a regular trape...
by Trevor Gore
Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:19 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus
Replies: 9
Views: 8535

Re: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus

...is elastic modulus the same as Flexural modulus in this use or is just closely related? Flexural modulus and elastic modulus tend to be the same in isotropic materials at small deflections. For larger deflections, as typical of bending tests, and non-isotropic materials (like wood) they tend to ...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:17 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: mass loading top
Replies: 2
Views: 4384

Re: mass loading top

To reduce a resonant frequency you can add mass or reduce stiffness To raise a resonant frequency you can add stiffness or reduce mass The mass of a brace is proportional to its height The stiffness of a beam (brace) is proportional to its height cubed (i.e double the height it is 8 times stiffer in...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:01 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus
Replies: 9
Views: 8535

Re: Frequency vs. Deflection for Measuring Flexural Modulus

It is possible to get comparative results, but you have to be very careful about how you do it. The problem with the static test is that the longer you leave the load on, the greater the deflection you get, due to the visco-elastic behaviour of wood, leaving you with a decision as to when to take th...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Mar 03, 2025 9:55 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Lutherier's Workbench
Replies: 42
Views: 115794

Re: Lutherier's Workbench

In fact here it is, the timber arrives tomorrow.... That looks remarkably like my bench! Having used mine for ~20 years, here's a few things to consider: Make both the bench vises double screw (the wide front vise will wrack too much on a single screw). One day, I'll make that change! Make at least...
by Trevor Gore
Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:22 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: Shear stress in braces
Replies: 4
Views: 31201

Re: Shear stress in braces

Trevor will no doubt respond as he always does with his sagely advice and make it all look embarrassingly simple :? Ha! I just looked up one of my old engineering text books.... it took 119 pages of "background" before it could sensibly discuss shear stress in beams. That's why the detail is not in...
by Trevor Gore
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:21 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Any solutions for over-sanding live back (I follow the Gore/Gilet design books)?
Replies: 11
Views: 36429

Re: Any solutions for over-sanding live back (I follow the Gore/Gilet design books)?

If you're following the book process (back on sides, then close the box with the top) you have the opportunity to tune the back B(1,1) resonance before gluing the top on. Make the main back brace a few millimeters taller than normal and don't scallop it. Glue the back on the sides and flush trim it....
by Trevor Gore
Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: Neck bolt drilling jig
Replies: 13
Views: 39446

Re: Neck bolt drilling jig

You can make a jig up using drill bushings (and it looks like Nigel did exactly that). P1010087s.jpg The screw-in drill guide bushings came from Lee Valley Tools: https://www.leevalley.com/en-gb/search#q=Drill%20bushings&t=product-search-tab&sort=relevancy&layout=card&numberOfResults=25 One is made ...
by Trevor Gore
Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:36 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

I played around with the above kit to try and find a user friendly configuration for teaching purposes. I wasn’t altogether successful, but here’s what I did and some of you might figure out how to do things better (and let us all know about it!) First, I wasn’t totally convinced about the security ...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

Because the Facmogu amp is so small, it will fit inside the speaker tube. P1010027cs.jpg It can be controlled via Bluetooth from VA on your PC, so access to the amp itself is not required. This installment shows you how to mount the amp in the speaker tube. The only external “hard” connection requir...
by Trevor Gore
Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

A minor clarification: Where I said... You should hear a 1kHz sine wave through your left computer speaker. If not, check that you have your speakers on in Windows and then check the “Dev” (for Device) tab on the initial VA screen. On the “Dev” tab select an appropriate output device. Hopefully that...
by Trevor Gore
Sun Nov 03, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

According to Google translate, Facmogu means "Send out mushrooms" :wink: This next part is about using the Sig Gen functions in Visual Analyser. There are many versions of Visual Analyser and most of the time I use one of the earliest versions (v 9.0.6) because it does what I want with least hassle....
by Trevor Gore
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:47 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

OK, there weren't may suggestions there! But we'll move right along, anyway! Those of you who wanted to get into Chladni patterns but were daunted by the build complexity of the kit shown above, rejoice! There is a much simpler solution, versions of which many of you will have adopted already, namel...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:24 pm
Forum: Contemporary Acoustic Guitar Design and Build - Trevor Gore
Topic: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns
Replies: 45
Views: 292594

Re: DIY Sig Gen/Amp unit for Chladni patterns

I am re-visiting the DIY sig gen topic due to new hardware becoming available that looks very promising (having already tested it). What I am seeking now is a sig gen app (preferable for free, but not necessarily so) that will run on a PC where the frequency is continuously adjustable using a mouse ...
by Trevor Gore
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:26 am
Forum: Instrument Builders Forum
Topic: chamfering braces
Replies: 17
Views: 61100

Re: chamfering braces

Yikes!!! I gave up using collet reducers many years ago, due to eccentricity issues. I never had an incident, but it always looked like one waiting to happen. I now only use routers where proper interchangeable collet sizes are available (primarily DeWalt (1/4", 6.00mm, 1/8") , Makita (1/4", 1/8"), ...